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2007-12-14 07:01:29
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Engine management system comparison.
This will be the place to go when someone new to engine management wants all the information they can use to decide which management system is best for them. The first post contains non-tunable replacement ECUs, tunable piggy-backs, and tunable daughter-board solutions. The second page contains full, tunable stand-alone solutions that are specifically pared down to support 4-cylinder engines to reduce their cost (this is a new trend in EMS solutions). The third post contains full, tunable stand-alone solutions that are usually the flagship EMS solution of a brand. If you have information on one or more of the systems you'd like to add, or corrections for me, please post and I'll update accordingly.

General Notes:
  • To make sure everything fits I've limited the notes on each solution to be very minimal. For full specs and such, visit the official web sites as provided and do your own research.

  • All prices listed are quoted directly from the manufacturer (MSRP) unless otherwise noted. Much cheaper prices for some systems can be found if you look around.

  • Most systems can not charge coils directly, requiring stock "ignitors" (power transistors) or other types of switches. This is usually not a problem, but for those trying to run 2-wire COP you will have to find another way to charge the coils. Most systems recommend using a CDI box for this purpose, but if you don't want to run CDI you can make your own switching system instead. See the thread I made on the AEM forum for details on that method: Moved EMS from Nissan S13 to B13 with Honda COP - No spark. (Fixed!)

    Research this aspect of your engine management system if you plan on running 2-wire COP.

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Non-tunable replacement ECU solutions


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Jim Wolf Technology ECU:

Notes:
NON-TUNABLE factory ECU replacement. Tell them what injectors, MAF, etc. you plan on running and send in a core ECU. You will be sent back an ECU with a tuned program based on the engine components you plan on using.

Licensing:
Hardware is proprietary and closed source.
Firmware is proprietary and closed source.

Installation:
Plug-and-play. Swap your current ECU with the new one. Couldn't be easier.

Communication:
N/A (see notes)

Software Interface:
N/A (see notes)

Reliability/Known Issues:
Their tunes for low-boost, VET applications may be experimental or extremely conservative.
Finally dumping JWT - SR20 Forum

Cost:
$595 with core return. ($100 for each re-tune.)

Research Links:
JIM WOLF TECHNOLOGY, INC. / NISSAN PERFORMANCE / NISSAN RACING /INFINITI PERFORMANCE
(Official site)

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Tunable ECU piggy-back solutions


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APEXi AFC (product range):

Notes:
Fuel piggy-back.
Allows for easy MAF swapping without the need for an external device (computer).

Licensing:
Hardware is proprietary and closed source.
Firmware is proprietary and closed source.

Installation:
A few wires intercept the ECU signals. Splicing the wires into your stock harness and go.
The device needs to following connections:
  • Power
  • Ground
  • RPM
  • Knock sensor
  • Throttle position sensor
  • MAF (or MAP) output
  • MAF (or MAP) input

Communication:
Integral to the device (one dial and one button). No computer connection needed. No computer connection available.

Software Interface:
N/A (see above)

Reliability/Known Issues:
Stub.

Cost:
~$300-$400 (based on my short research)

Research Links:
Apex'i
(Official site)

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AEM Fuel / Ignition Controller (F/IC):

Notes:
Fuel and ignition piggy-back.

Licensing:
Hardware is proprietary and closed source.
Firmware is proprietary and closed source.

Installation:
Stub.

Reliability/Known Issues:
Stub.

Communication:
Stub.

Software Interface:
F/IC - x (free, closed source)

Cost:
$464.10

Research Links:
AEM
(Official site)

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MegaSquirt I:

Notes:
Fuel piggy-back.

Licensing:
Hardware PCB layout is proprietary and closed source.
Hardware schematics are proprietary and viewable source.
Firmware is proprietary and viewable source.

Installation:
Stub.

Communication:
Stub.

Software Interface:
TunerStudio MS Lite (closed source, free download)
TunerStudio MS Registered Edition (closed source, $49.95 download)
MegaTunix (open source, free download)

Reliability/Known Issues:
  • Prone to corrupting firmware if serial communications settings are wrong or serial ports are malfunctioning

Cost:
$350 (pre-assembled)
$193 (assemble your own)

Pricing is from www.diyautotune.com

Research Links:
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Greddy e-Manage:

Notes:
Fuel and ignition piggy-back.

Licensing:
Hardware is proprietary and closed source.
Firmware is proprietary and closed source.

Installation:
Stub.

Communication:
Stub.

Software Interface:
Stub.

Reliability/Known Issues:
Stub.

Cost:
$379

Research Links:
Greddy - Founded and Driven by Racers
(Official site)

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Tunable daughterboard solutions


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Calum's Realtime Daughterboard:

Notes:
Calum has reverse engineered the stock ECU and created an emulator for it in the form of a daughterboard.
You get control of ignition and fuel maps, as well as a few other things such as rev limit.
Not a full featured stand-alone, but pretty close. Calum has stopped work on this project.

Licensing:
Hardware is proprietary and closed source.
Firmware is proprietary and closed source.

Installation:
Plug-and-play. Swap your current ECU with the new one. Couldn't be easier.

Communication:
RS232 or USB.

Software Interface:
TunerPro
Needs proper XDF (definition) files

The software used with PLMS/NIStune daughterboards also works with the Calum daughterboard, but is not the original software designed for this product. This is listed as an option, as it is confirmed to work:
NIStune (requires $171.76 single user license, closed source)

Reliability/Known Issues:
Stub.

Cost:
No longer available new.

Previous new unit pricing:
$120 for basic
$375 for OBDI Real Time (provide your own ECU)
$350 for OBDII Real Time (provide your own ECU)

Research Links:
CalumSult - SR20-Forum
(Calum's vendor specific section of this forum)

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NIStune Type 3 Real-Time:

Notes:
Nissan specific, tunable daughterboard similar to Calum's work but newer and still maintained.

Licensing:
Hardware is proprietary and closed source.
Firmware is proprietary and closed source.

Installation:
Solder the 40-pin connector to your factory ECU and call it a day.

Communication:
RS232 or USB adapter interfacing through the Consult port.

Software Interface:
NIStune (closed source, requires $171.76 single user license)

Reliability/Known Issues:
Stub.

Cost:
$188.94 Type 3 real-time board
$171.76 single user license
$85.88/$94.46 Consult cable (RS232/USB)
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$455.16 Total (with USB cable)

Pricing from www.plmsdevelopments.com

Research Links:
NIStune - Nissan Realtime ECU tuning
(Official site)

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NismoTronic RT Tuning Package

Notes:
Nissan specific, tunable daughterboard with onboard logging storage and ADC input channels built in.
Dave Dunn (dfddfd2) completely reversed engineered the OBDI ECU and defined all of the tunable items and documented how those tunable items work. This is the closest you can get to a standalone ECU with an OEM ECU.
NEMU RT is what they call the physical daughterboard. TunerCode is the firmware, and NismoTronic RT is the tuning software.
ADC break-out box also included for quick and easy wiring of 0-5v sensors for logging through the NEMU board. The ADC inputs are user configurable for logging in through the tuning software.

Licensing:
Hardware is proprietary and closed source.
Firmware is proprietary and closed source.

Installation:
Have them install the daughterboard in your ECU for you, for the price shown below.
Otherwise solder the 40-pin connector to your factory ECU and solder 3 wires from the NEMU RT daughterboard to your ECU connector pins.

Communication:
Standard USB connector.

Software Interface:
NismoTronic RT (single license included, closed source)

Reliability/Known Issues:
Stub.

Cost:
$550 (includes installing daughterboard into your actual ECU and return shipping)
or
$650 (no need to send in your ECU, they give you one)

Research Links:
http://www.NismoTronic.com
(Official site)
http://www.sr20-forum.com/nismotronic/
(NismoTronic's vendor specific section of this forum)
https://www.facebook.com/groups/145162022225980/
(Official Facebook group)
Last edited by BenFenner on 2012-05-10 at 13-50-48.
2007-12-15 03:54:05
#2
Pared-down stand-alone EMS solutions
(usually an established EMS stripped for 4 cylinder use to save money)



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AEM EMS-4 Universal:

Notes:
This EMS is based off of the Series 2 AEM EMS. It is stripped down to include only 4 injector and 4 coil outputs for those who want to run a 4 cylinder engine and want to save some money. As far as I know, everything else is the same between the big brother EMS, except I b

Licensing:
Hardware is proprietary and closed source.
Firmware is proprietary and closed source.

Installation:
Create your own harness or harness adapter.

Reliability/Known Issues:
  • 24+1 style CAS disc is now recommended for all SR20 applications.
    The stock Nissan CAS disc has 360 slots for for the camshaft angle portion. At high engine speeds, the ECU can be overwhelmed with the amount of incoming information causing trigger errors. Replacement CAS discs with fewer slots are offered and are available in 50 mm and 54 mm versions for both of our distributor types. The cost of the custom CAS disc through AEM as of this writing: $50. I believe these discs now come free with the SR20 PnP units.
Communication:
USB

Software Interface:
AEMTuner (free, closed source)
AEMdata used for datalogs (free, closed source)

Cost:
$843.34 (does not include cost of harness or harness adapter)

Research Links:

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MicroTech LT-10 ECU:

Notes:
Designed for for 4 cylinder engines.

Licensing:
Hardware is proprietary and closed source.
Firmware is proprietary and closed source.

Installation:
Stub.

Communication:
RS232.

Software Interface:
LT-Series Software ($155 purchase)

Reliability/Known Issues:
Stub.

Cost:
$1095 LT-10 ECU
$155 tuning software
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$1250 Total


Research Links:
www.microtech-efi.com
(Official site)
Last edited by BenFenner on 2012-05-07 at 20-37-09.
2007-12-16 08:22:53
#3
Stand-alone EMS solutions



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AEM Plug & Play (Series 1):

Notes:
This is a very popular solution due to the Plug-and-Play nature of it and over-all features and support for our platform.

Coach gives tips on how to save some money:
Originally Posted by coach
I HIGHLY suggest getting the NON wideband unit and running the AEM External UEGO gauge type wideband controller. You simply run a wire from that to the ems and you get the gauge and all for less money. VERY worth it.

This gives you all wideband functionality, EMS integration and a wideband display gauge for less cost.

Licensing:
Hardware is proprietary and closed source.
Firmware is proprietary and closed source.

Installation:
Plug and Play to stock harness. It is recommended that you wire in your own MAP and IAT sensors and ditch the MAF sensor.

Reliability/Known Issues:
  • 24+1 style CAS disc is now recommended for all SR20 applications.
    The stock Nissan CAS disc has 360 slots for for the camshaft angle portion. At high engine speeds, the ECU can be overwhelmed with the amount of incoming information causing trigger errors. Replacement CAS discs with fewer slots are offered and are available in 50 mm and 54 mm versions for both of our distributor types. The cost of the custom CAS disc through AEM as of this writing: $50. I believe these discs now come free with the SR20 PnP units.

  • The tuning software has a known bug where sometimes upon initial loading, a calibration will not show the correct AFR units in the software. Switch the AFR units to something else, and then to your desired units to fix the problem.

Communication:
RS232 connection or RS232/USB adapter connection. Coach has used multiple RS232/USB adapters with success.

Make sure to verify Firmware and Software versions before using old AEMPro software.

Software Interface:
AEMPro (free, closed source)
AEMdata used for datalogs (free, closed source)

Cost:
No longer available new.
Can be found used from $450 - $1,000.

Research Links:

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AEM Plug & Play (Series 2):

Notes:
Basically like the Series 1 but with native USB connectivity, come added extras like CAN bus capability and whatnot. You also get to fully utilize the new AEM Tuner software which is quite nice.
It does have the same Nissan CAS disc swap requirement as the Series 1 EMS.

Licensing:
Hardware is proprietary and closed source.
Firmware is proprietary and closed source.

Installation:
Plug and Play to stock harness. It is recommended that you wire in your own MAP and IAT sensors and ditch the MAF sensor.

Reliability/Known Issues:
24+1 style CAS disc is now recommended for all SR20 applications.
The stock Nissan CAS disc has 360 slots for for the camshaft angle portion. At high engine speeds, the ECU can be overwhelmed with the amount of incoming information causing trigger errors. Replacement CAS discs with fewer slots are offered and are available in 50 mm and 54 mm versions for both of our distributor types. The cost of the custom CAS disc through AEM as of this writing: $50. I believe these discs now come free with the SR20 PnP units.

Communication:
USB.

Software Interface:
AEMTuner (free, closed source)
AEMdata used for datalogs (free, closed source)

Cost:
$1,496.73

Research Links:

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FreeEMS:

Notes:
Started in January 2008, this project is successfully running more and more engines by the day. (Full disclosure; I, BenFenner work closely with this project.) It is still in the alpha phase, but it can be considered a viable option for those with DIY hardware skills and the desire to tinker and get in on the ground floor of a new engine management solution. The two, basic features of tuning an engine (fuel and ignition tables) are there and all the additional features of a typical stand-alone are on the way. Right now you would be part of a handful of people working with FreeEMS and you would have the developer's undivided attention. Need a feature added? Ask and ye shall receive (in a manner of days).

FreeEMS is open source hardware controlled by open source firmware, and was initially conceived as a reaction to the proprietary/closed nature of MegaSquirt and the problems with that community that have cropped up more recently because of that.

FreeEMS values quality, robustness, and best practices (of hardware design and firmware code). It uses a professional approach, modern development tools, an agile development process and quality/transparency oriented development style which ensures less issues and regressions. It has check-summed and packetised communication protocols. Its firmware is designed with integrated unit testing. The project uses proper version control and issue tracking. The developers have a strong desire to learn from the mistakes of others and avoid many of the pitfalls suffered by other projects.

Licensing:
Hardware is non-proprietary and open source.
Firmware is non-proprietary and open source.

Installation:
This EMS is aimed at the Do-It-Yourself type person. You must build the ECU from components or find someone willing to do it for you. Then you'll have to make your own engine harness to go with it.

Communication:
RS232 or USB if built accordingly.

Software Interface:
MegaTunix (free, open source)

Reliability/Known Issues:
Transparency and disclosure of issues is high priority at FreeEMS. See the current state of things on the issue tracker straight from the horse's mouth: http://issues.freeems.org

Right now there are six main outputs available for fully sequential fuel and ignition. For 4-cylinder engines using a distributor you are fine. If you want to use COP though you'll have to decide if you want semi-sequential fuel or wasted-spark ignition.

Cost:
~$181 (assemble your own)

Research Links:

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MegaSquirt II:

Notes:
Megasquirt II is intended for DIY install and most installs are self tuned. With Megasquirt II you get the opportunity to learn how engine management works and gain full tuneability of your engine. Be sure to read the documentation.

Currently recommended firmware is MS2/Extra (as apposed to B&G).

Licensing:
Hardware PCB layout is proprietary and closed source.
Hardware schematics are proprietary and viewable source.
Firmware is proprietary and viewable source. (Now with MegaSquirt III released, no MS3 firmware feature can be backported to MS2. Info links: 1 2)
Info links: 1

Installation:
Stub.

Communication:
Stub.

Software Interface:
TunerStudio MS Lite (closed source, free download)
TunerStudio MS Registered Edition (closed source, $49.95 download)
MegaTunix (open source, free download)

Reliability/Known Issues:
  • Users of MS2Extra firmware versions 3.X lower than 3.2 should not modify their fuel injection timing. It is recommend to upgrade to 3.2 or better. Info links: 1
  • Grounding is very important with MegaSquirt II. It does not tolerate poor grounds. Info links: 1
  • PCB version 3.0 has power supply issues. Info links: 1 2
  • Prone to corrupting firmware if serial communications settings are wrong or serial ports are malfunctioning.
Cost:
$430 (pre-assembled)
$247 (assemble your own)

Pricing is from www.diyautotune.com

Research Links:
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MegaSquirt III:

Notes:
Megasquirt III is available as a kit you solder yourself, or prebuilt using surface mount components. There is also the MS3x (extender) which attaches to the CPU board to add more inputs and outputs. See the Megasquirt Product Comparison page for more details and features.

Licensing:
Hardware PCB layout is proprietary and closed source.
Hardware schematics are proprietary and viewable source.
Firmware is proprietary and viewable source. (Viewable source always lags one major release behind current.)
Info links: licensing info

Installation:
Stub.

Communication:
USB

Software Interface:
TunerStudio MS Lite (closed source, free download)
TunerStudio MS Registered Edition (closed source, $49.95 download)

Reliability/Known Issues:
  • PCB version 3.0 has power supply issues. Info links: 1 2

Cost:
$640 (MS3 + MS3x pre-assembled)
$455 (MS3 + MS3x assemble your own)

Pricing is from www.diyautotune.com

Research Links:
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VEMS GenBoard v3:

Notes:
Formerly open source stand-alone EMS. Used heavily on BMW, Audi and 4-cylinder Nissan engines by European tuners.
Forum member BenFenner was the first to install VEMS on a FWD SR20 and has many of the kinks worked out. Read about his progress in the research link below.

Optional LCD display shows sensor readings; eliminating the need for all/most gauges (when it works, see issues below).

Optional keyboard plug will let you tune with the LCD and keyboard alone. No laptop needed. This tuning method is extremely cumbersome.

Licensing:
Hardware is proprietary and closed source.
Firmware is proprietary and closed source.

Installation:
A VEMS-to-Nissan harness plug adapter can be made, or a new wiring harness created. Swap to coil-on-plug is highly recommended. The swap to a 50 mm style CAS is no longer required as AEM should be able to sell you a 54mm CAS disc if you ask.

  • CAS problem/solution:
    The stock Nissan CAS disc has 360 slots for for the camshaft angle portion. At high engine speeds, the ECU will be overwhelmed with the amount of incoming information causing trigger errors. Replacement CAS discs with fewer slots are offered (similar to AEM's solution) but are 50mm only. AEM can get you a 54mm CAS disc now if you'd like. Cost of custom 50 mm CAS disc through VEMS as of this writing: $30.

  • Distributor problem/solution:
    Use of distributor to send spark is problematic (but theoretically possible). A switch to coil-on-plug solution is highly recommended. See the COP section of the SR20-Forum Manifesto for COP options.
Communication:
RS232. USB to RS232 adapters work, but are not recommended.
Can be configured in a pinch using optional LCD and PS/2 keyboard in the absence of a laptop. This is extremely cumbersome and IMO to be avoided at all costs.

Software Interface:
VEMSTune (publicly available)

Reliability/Known Issues:
  • The optional LCD screens are prone to defective operation.
  • Grounding is very important with VEMS. It does not tolerate poor grounds.
  • The low current output (P259) driver won't take much abuse, and may fry if treated to any high electrical load. Other outputs can be used instead.
  • VEMS does not support overlapping ignition coil dwell time, resulting in unpredictable ignition timing when this occurs.
  • Prone to corrupting firmware if serial communications settings are wrong or serial ports are malfunctioning.
Cost:
$632.35 (pre-assembled)
$432.00 (assemble your own)

Research Links:
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APEXi Power FC:

Notes:
Stub.

Licensing:
Hardware is proprietary and closed source.
Firmware is proprietary and closed source.

Installation:
Stub.

Communication:
Stub.

Software Interface:
Stub.

Reliability/Known Issues:
Stub.

Cost:
Stub.

Research Links:
Apex'i
(Official site)

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Haltech E6X:

Notes:
Stub.

Licensing:
Hardware is proprietary and closed source.
Firmware is proprietary and closed source.

Installation:
Stub.

Communication:
Stub.

Software Interface:
Stub.

Reliability/Known Issues:
Stub.

Cost:
Aprox. $1300

Research Links:
Haltech - Engine Management Systems
(Official site)

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Haltech E8:

Notes:
Stub.

Includes:
  • external 3 bar MAP
  • ECU
  • harness
  • cd rom

Licensing:
Hardware is proprietary and closed source.
Firmware is proprietary and closed source.

Installation:
Stub.

Communication:
Stub.

Software Interface:
Stub.

Reliability/Known Issues:
Stub.

Cost:
Aprox. $1650

Research Links:
Haltech - Engine Management Systems
(Official site)

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Electromotive Total Engine Control:

Notes:
Stub.

Licensing:
Hardware is proprietary and closed source.
Firmware is proprietary and closed source.

Installation:
From what I've read, I don't think it will work with the factory Nissan trigger set-up. Their supplied crank trigger wheel will have to be installed, or a custom unit made.

Communication:
Stub.

Software Interface:
WinTEC3 (free, closed source)

Reliability/Known Issues:
Stub.

Cost:
Stub.

Research Links:
TECĀ³ - by Electromotive
(Official site product page)

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Simple Digital Systems EM-4:

Notes:
Stub.

Licensing:
Hardware is proprietary and closed source.
Firmware is proprietary and closed source.

Installation:
Stub.

Communication:
RS232.

Software Interface:
Stub.

Reliability/Known Issues:
Stub.

Cost:
$1165

Research Links:
Simple Digital Systems EM-4
(Official site)

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MoTeC:

Notes:
"Not a bad way to spend ten thousand dollars."

Licensing:
Hardware is proprietary and closed source.
Firmware is proprietary and closed source.

Installation:
Stub.

Communication:
RS232.

Software Interface:
Stub.

Reliability/Known Issues:
Stub.

Cost:
Stub.

Research Links:
Motec
(Official site)

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FAST (SpeedPro) Electronics XFI:

Notes:
Popular with domestic crowd.

Licensing:
Hardware is proprietary and closed source.
Firmware is proprietary and closed source.

Installation:
Stub.

Communication:
Stub.

Software Interface:
Stub.

Reliability/Known Issues:
Stub.

Cost:
Stub.

Research Links:
Force Fuel Injection - FAST XFI
(Official site)

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Big Stuff GEN3 PRO SEFI:

Notes:
Popular with domestic crowd.

Licensing:
Hardware is proprietary and closed source.
Firmware is proprietary and closed source.

Installation:
Stub.

Communication:
RS232.

Software Interface:
Stub.

Reliability/Known Issues:
Stub.

Cost:
Stub.

Research Links:
BigStuff3.com
(Official site)

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Autronic SM4:

Notes:
Popular in Australia.

Licensing:
Hardware is proprietary and closed source.
Firmware is proprietary and closed source.

Installation:
Stub.

Communication:
Stub.

Software Interface:
SM4V026x2_2 (unknown license status)

Reliability/Known Issues:
Stub.

Cost:
Stub.

Research Links:
autronic.com.au
(Official site)

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Wolf V500:

Notes:
Popular in Australia.

Licensing:
Hardware is proprietary and closed source.
Firmware is proprietary and closed source.

Installation:
Currently harness adapters are available for S13-S15 and GTi-R factory engine harnesses for approx. $100
Otherwise you will have to create your own adapter, or make your own wiring harness.

Communication:
RS232. They recommend a $95 RS232-to-USB adapter for those who want to use USB.

Software Interface:
Wolf V400 PC Software 4.72.71 ($89 to purchase, closed source)

Reliability/Known Issues:
Stub.

Cost:
$1895 V500 EMS
$100 optional wiring harness adapter
$89 tuning software
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$2084 Total

Research Links:
www.wolfems.com
(Official site)

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MAP-ECU:

Notes:
The basic idea behind this ECU is to replace the factory MAF sensor with a (3 bar?) MAP sensor and intake air temperature sensor. A user can take advantage of the readings a MAP sensor provides instead of the MAF sensor allowing the tuning of fuel delivery.

Licensing:
Hardware is proprietary and closed source.
Firmware is proprietary and closed source.

Installation:
Stub.

Communication:
Stub.

Software Interface:
Stub.

Reliability/Known Issues:
Stub.

Cost:
$425

Research Links:
www.mapecu.com
(Official site)
www.performancemotorresearch.co.nz/forum (MAP-ECU's Forum)

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MAP-ECU2:

Notes:
The basic idea behind this ECU is to replace the factory MAF sensor with a (3 bar?) MAP sensor and intake air temperature sensor. A user can take advantage of the readings a MAP sensor provides instead of the MAF sensor allowing the tuning of fuel delivery.
This ECU also adds the ability to adjust ignition timing and a few other useful things.

Licensing:
Hardware is proprietary and closed source.
Firmware is proprietary and closed source.

Installation:
Stub.

Communication:
Stub.

Software Interface:
Stub.

Reliability/Known Issues:
Stub.

Cost:
$725

Research Links:
www.mapecu.com
(Official site)
www.performancemotorresearch.co.nz/forum (MAP-ECU's Forum)

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KMS MP25(M)/MA25(M):

Notes:
Stub.

Licensing:
Hardware is proprietary and closed source.
Firmware is proprietary and closed source.

Installation:
Stub.

Communication:
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Software Interface:
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Reliability/Known Issues:
Stub.

Cost:
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Research Links:
http://www.vankronenburg.nl/index.html
(Newer official site)
www.enginemanagement.co.uk
(Official site)
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KMS MD35:

Notes:
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Licensing:
Hardware is proprietary and closed source.
Firmware is proprietary and closed source.

Installation:
Stub.

Communication:
Stub.

Software Interface:
Stub.

Reliability/Known Issues:
Stub.

Cost:
Stub.

Research Links:
http://www.vankronenburg.nl/index.html
(Newer official site)
www.enginemanagement.co.uk
(Official site)

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Adaptronic e1280s:

Notes:
Stub.

Licensing:
Hardware is proprietary and closed source.
Firmware is proprietary and closed source.

Installation:
Looks like you will need to make your own engine harness or purchase their generic harness and adapt it to your engine.

Communication:
USB.

Software Interface:
Adaptronic Tuner (closed source, free download)

Reliability/Known Issues:
Stub.

Cost:
AU$1,999.00 (check currency exchange rates)

Research Links:
http://adaptronic.com.au/
(Official site)
Last edited by BenFenner on 2012-07-09 at 19-37-54.
2007-12-21 18:58:12
#4
Originally Posted by Clown
You forgot the PLMS daughterboards, and the Nistune realtime board (which PLMS is a distributor for)

http://www.plmsdevelopments.com/realtime.shtml
http://www.plmsdevelopments.com/daughterboards.shtml


Thanks for opening my eyes to this stuff. It looks top notch... Only problem I see is they charge for a software license. Seriously... Get with the program. Charge more for the board to recoop costs. Sorry...

Anyway, I'm putting the info together right now.
2007-12-21 20:17:44
#5
A couple of new systems have been added (NIStune and Eletromotive) and a bunch of minor updates. There's still a ton of information missing, so if anyone knows what software is used for the Haltech stuff, or how to install a Greddy e-manage, etc. then please chime in. =]
2008-02-23 11:21:26
#6
Thanks for opening my eyes to this stuff. It looks top notch... Only problem I see is they charge for a software license. Seriously... Get with the program. Charge more for the board to recoop costs. Sorry...


I think we are with the program.... You are correct in that most hardware products sold include the software development costs with the hardware when purchased

However NIStune can be sold either with
(a) just boards (we have tuners and users throughout Australia and overseas ordering just boards and tuning them with a tuners license as well as individuals purchasing and getting tuned by one of our supported tuners) or
(b) with the software license alone (using third party emulators / consult cables / wideband units / calum RT board)
(c) individuals purchasing both board + software (as a complete package usually with consult cable and then getting wideband unit afterwards)

some people want the tuning flexibility of an aftermarket ECU in a factory ECU but dont want to tune themselves. That is why we try and keep the board costs down but the software license is sold as something separate

The software is something that we continously improve, support and develop which is why it has a separate price. Also in regards to software licensing, this includes future versions. If you purchase which is a one-off version cost, say something like NissanDataScan 1.5, when later verions come out you will be paying to upgrade to that later on. We also support our users on the forums and email to get them up and running and assist with tuning questions
2008-02-23 15:59:57
#7
darkhalf, check your PMs.

Edit: And thank you very much for looking over this thread. If you have any corrections or information you'd like to add to the list; let me know.
2008-03-07 23:19:22
#8
darkhalf: Are you affiliated with Nistune?
2008-03-08 03:18:04
#9
power fc
2008-03-10 15:55:23
#10
Originally Posted by cory
power fc


Is this a request to add it to the list?
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