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    woah! can you post the link pls

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    link of the vid

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    payu look in the vvl section, a lil respect to your pr boys !

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    Big up to the P.R. crew.

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    nice numbers!!!! I still can't get over how loud all motor cars are ;-)

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    Y VA SEGUIRRRRRRRRRRR el pito en los controles d verdad exito con esa makina q se q pronto se van a tener q asustar muchos de otras marcas si sigue como va y con lisas y una aliviana a lo frankestein claro ya convirtiendolo en un carro full pista ufffffffff una makina de guerra...

    damn.... congrats on the project and good luck, soon i know it will scare some other brands like H and M on here if it keeps improving like its doing, and with slicks and more weight reduction like making the car a full strip car wow a ar machine....
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    I notice all the fast na sr20ve's are all black. Cory's, jun's and pito's so is that part of the recipe to build a fast na car lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1sentra-se-r View Post
    I notice all the fast na sr20ve's are all black. Cory's, jun's and pito's so is that part of the recipe to build a fast na car lol.
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    i gonna paint JJ matte black

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    Apparently he did 11.92 last night, the only available video that I know of is on Facebook(so if you are not a friend you are not gonna be able to see it) and it sucks anyway.
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    If so, Congratulations hitting that 11 second barrier. It would be a hell of a condendor here in the states in the all motor street class.

    Make a lot of Honda boys scratch their head wondering what the hell just happened.
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    Damn! 11s na on street tires is sick!
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    Passes were on slicks!!!

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    Even so good job! Keep it up
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    Congrats!

    Question.. With a 13:1 compression build, why did you choose the N1 cams over the Kelford 184C ?( which are recommended for 13:1 or higher) We all know how great the N1 cams are and how they keep proving themselves, but I have noticed some people up here in the states are choosing the kelfords over the N1's recently. Im just interested in your reason for staying with the N1's as you guys really know what you are doing down there, time and time again you guys are posting up unbelievable numbers and slips.
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    The owner of this car doesnt like the Idle of the kelfords he tested them on the 2.0 with poor results so he didnt bother to test them on the 2.2

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    What a weapon, holy crap

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    daym again 11s on a 2.2

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    He should give them a try. For one they will idle better on the bigger motor. And he can dial a bit of overlap out to improve idle. Not to mention if he sees gains like mine (10whp everywhere) I think hell learn to live with the idle lol.
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    Doesn't like the idle? I saw a low quality video of them on youtube and i had a hard on for 20 minutes. If S4's do the harley shake than the Kelfords.. I dont know what they do. The big block shake?

    Question though. When he tested them on the 2.0, was that builds compression ration below 13:1?

    I was reading on the kelford main site earlier this weekend and they specifically stated that the cams aren't even suitable for an engine with anything below 13:1. With the low lobes having something like over 300* duration.. its easy to see. They are some serious lobes. Maybe one where the idle needs to be considerably raised?
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    They have been proven to give gains on stock ves.

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    It still amazes me that with the time that Kelford has had for VE cam developement that 10whp is all they could get over n1's. I know your powerband Cory was also extended a good 1000 rpm as well if i remember correctly but still. I really dont think they have even touched on the potential that a good cam could make for the 2.2, 2.3, and 2.4 motors. I mean in comparison the k20a2 type r motor has a comparable cam to the n1 as far as specs go and as far as power wise as well. But aftermarket companies such as Drag Cartel and many others have made 30,40, and 50whp above the already good type r cams. So whats to say that if and when a proper cam comes out for the VE that the same or similar results couldnt be had.

    Its a shame more companies couldnt get involved trying to bring out more cams for the VE.
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    can someone post the link pls

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    Quote Originally Posted by ashtonsser View Post
    It still amazes me that with the time that Kelford has had for VE cam developement that 10whp is all they could get over n1's. I know your powerband Cory was also extended a good 1000 rpm as well if i remember correctly but still. I really dont think they have even touched on the potential that a good cam could make for the 2.2, 2.3, and 2.4 motors. I mean in comparison the k20a2 type r motor has a comparable cam to the n1 as far as specs go and as far as power wise as well. But aftermarket companies such as Drag Cartel and many others have made 30,40, and 50whp above the already good type r cams. So whats to say that if and when a proper cam comes out for the VE that the same or similar results couldnt be had.

    Its a shame more companies couldnt get involved trying to bring out more cams for the VE.
    i get what you are saying, but on a stock motor, aftermarket cams will make more whp on a k20a than on a sr20ve

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    Quote Originally Posted by ashtonsser View Post
    It still amazes me that with the time that Kelford has had for VE cam developement that 10whp is all they could get over n1's. I know your powerband Cory was also extended a good 1000 rpm as well if i remember correctly but still. I really dont think they have even touched on the potential that a good cam could make for the 2.2, 2.3, and 2.4 motors. I mean in comparison the k20a2 type r motor has a comparable cam to the n1 as far as specs go and as far as power wise as well. But aftermarket companies such as Drag Cartel and many others have made 30,40, and 50whp above the already good type r cams. So whats to say that if and when a proper cam comes out for the VE that the same or similar results couldnt be had.

    Its a shame more companies couldnt get involved trying to bring out more cams for the VE.
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    You ever think maybe because the aftermarket cams were a better or proper design or that more people have spent more time dialing them in correctly to make the most power out of them?

    Just like for us, it took the K20 a while to get a cam that could well outperform the factory type r cam. Once that happened many more jumped in and it was all over.

    I still think there is a lot more room to go cam wise for the VE. Something doesnt seem right for a factory nissan cam to still almost perform right there with a set of almost 900 dollar aftermarket cams. Not a very good hp for dollar ratio on the cam set. lol.

    Really wish JWT would have stepped in on ve cams. Im sure they could have come up with something good.
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    K series head allow for a lot more lift then an sr and to get an sr to the same lift as the drag cartel cams provide would take a lot of modification to the head that the average joe cant do so theres really nothing kelford can do or any cam company really
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daves_sr View Post
    K series head allow for a lot more lift then an sr and to get an sr to the same lift as the drag cartel cams provide would take a lot of modification to the head that the average joe cant do so theres really nothing kelford can do or any cam company really
    finally, some who has done some research

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    Thats the thing. The head design really comes in to play on the cams of that spec. I remember talking to an old friend who worked in the fabrication department of an SCCA pro team. He was a DSM guy but had worked on many SR's as well. He always stated the main drawback of the SR's heads were restrictions of head flow compared to others. This is where the K series is killing everyone. Someone needs to basically spend the R&D time on several VE heads to see just how much you can get out of it, then build the cam to spec for that head. Once that knowledge is openly available, then you will start seeing the big gains.

    The funny thing is you have a company like Mazworx take the SR to what we would think is at its limit in their S15 tube frame drag silvia, and the joke is it runs N1 cams. It really doesnt make sense. Is some engineer at Nissan Laughing? Even more so, the cam was designed for a 1.6. I just dont get it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ashtonsser View Post
    You ever think maybe because the aftermarket cams were a better or proper design or that more people have spent more time dialing them in correctly to make the most power out of them?

    Just like for us, it took the K20 a while to get a cam that could well outperform the factory type r cam. Once that happened many more jumped in and it was all over.

    I still think there is a lot more room to go cam wise for the VE. Something doesnt seem right for a factory nissan cam to still almost perform right there with a set of almost 900 dollar aftermarket cams. Not a very good hp for dollar ratio on the cam set. lol.

    Really wish JWT would have stepped in on ve cams. Im sure they could have come up with something good.
    im think they tried n it didnt work out.... they just kept it on the low
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    ^ im sure they did, and they just couldnt make it happen and they gave up. clearly it can be done.

    theres only 2 cams that put in work, the n1's and the kelfords. theres alot left on the table as far as cams go. it is what it is.

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    its called old car and cheap owners. All that money spent on R&D to give 20 people what they want doesn't make sense. If it were a motor still been made and in a production car maybe it would have taken off. If any R&D happens it will be from a few people who prob will not say anything lol.
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    Pretty sure the mazwork s15 started off running N1s but pretty sure it runs Kelfords monster turbo cams

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    I dont care what you say about the ve heads lift limitation. I already know that the K series can accomidate a much larger lift cam. However if you have looked at as many flow charts as ive seen you will notice one thing. Once you get past a certain point in the lift and from what ive seen just a hair over 12mm lift there is not much gain on head flow by having the lift any more than that. Ive seen lift pushed to 13mm and between 12 and 13mm there was maybe a 5 cfm difference. So I doubt that is it.

    I think the majority of the issue comes from people not really getting the heads worked over to accomidate the large cam again maybe because most are too cheap to spend the money on good port and head work. A big cam will only get you soo far anyways.

    But if you look at the Drag cartel cams for the k series I believe their lift is still in the 13mm range and hell the kelford massive turbo cams I believe are in the 13mm range as well (correct me if im wrong)

    Id like to see how cory's car does with the new headwork and his kelfords. Maybe thats all the cams needed is the proper headwork to match because the head will only flow soo much stock.

    Guess we will see.
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    Are you kidding!!! Drag Cartel Race Cams are 14-15mm of lift on the intake and 13-14mm on the exhaust.. there is no such cam available for the SR20VE so there will be a certain point were you can port a SR20VE head that can flow more pass 12mm of lift but there its no cam available to take advantage of that... 184-C advertised lift on the intake it just .5mm more than N1 cam so in that part there is not much difference I can see the 184-C making more midrange power because of the bigger small lobes but dont know... My friends here tested the 184-C with no luck making less power after cam activation than N1 so they quit testing...

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    I've also found it hard to make more power then n1 on the 2.0. Also we are limited to 13mm or so on the lift by the geometry of our rockers and suck. If we get a few people and have some roller rockers made along with a custom grind, then were talking..

    Other key thing would be send 3-4 heads off to someone like 4 piston or endyne or rlz and have them do some cutting to the heads and get a nice cnc race port configured. If we could get a little group together and share the cost I think it would bring big things. .
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    Yeah thats a key advantage for the honda guys. Very cheap (relatively speaking) extensive proven headwork that can be done quickly using CNC porting. Definitely need to get those companies involved with the VE head and if there is enough intrest, once the map for the port work is layed out and configured into the CNC then the cost should go down and shouldnt be any more expensive than the Honda guys. But yes, there is going to be initial cost work.

    Ive said that before about getting custom roller rockers made that are also have adjustable valve lash on the rocker like the honda guys.

    Again money, but if your looking to go serious power with the VE you really have no other choice
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    [QUOTE=cory;753142]we are limited to 13mm or so on the lift by the geometry of our rockers /QUOTE]

    this is something that doesn't get pointed out often enough...
    porting and polishing isn't the problem, it's the physical limitations of the valvetrain thats holding the VE back.
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    There should be a cam that takes the SR20VE to the limits in term of lift!! And some more duration than N1 and less than 184-C and 20V low lobes to keep the nice Idle... Jejejejeje the best of both worlds !! JUST DREAMING!!! ....

 

 
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