Guys, sorry, you REALLY need to pay attention to what it did to your cars. You actually LOST ultimate deceleration capacity when you didn't re-balance your bias. Under racing conditions, with the proper pads, of course, you maintained a greater long term capacity than with the stock front rotors because the 22's kept cooler than the little guys would have, but YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN FASTER had you re-balanced your brake bias. BEST solution for the track, of course, is to put bias adjusters in line, but that requires cutting, something I chose not to do for a street car. The classic was valved for those tiny 18's up front. With 22vf leverage up front, the bias went from optimal to MUCH more front bias. 8/10 driving they'll work fine. When you need 'em to duck the idiot in front of you, THAT's when you need the extra few percent. That's when the difference is having your car the next day vs. sending it to the yard - hopefully with you not in it.
THE reason you're getting no wear on the rear pads IS THEY'RE NOT WORKING! And if you're getting the same results with a car with too much front bias and a car with adjustable valving, then Joe's car with the adjustable valving hasn't been optimized. And if 99% of the people wouldn't notice, that simply means that 99% can't drive well enough to feel their cars. YES, we're only talking about a few percent here - but it should be worth a good second off Road Atlanta, for example (because you can consistently go deeper before braking, particularly 1, 5, 6, and 10a), and that's enough to get a WHOLE lot closer to those 1-2 Hondas.
Oh, yes, Kev, of course, bending the sheet out of the way would work fine. Envy your sheet experience, would love to have it. I suspect most folks pull the splash guard off for racing in the dry, and it wouldn't be worth the time, I suspect, to put them on for a rain run - brakes are likely hot enough to keep them ready anyway. Racing, I'd pull them for the additional air flow.
Thanx for arguing with me, guys! Hope you had a wonderful Xmas, have an absolutely fabulous New Year (stay safe, please), and very much hope you have the successful next year you all deserve. (we can keep arguing -- just wanted to slip in here how much I value you folks :-) )
THE reason you're getting no wear on the rear pads IS THEY'RE NOT WORKING! And if you're getting the same results with a car with too much front bias and a car with adjustable valving, then Joe's car with the adjustable valving hasn't been optimized. And if 99% of the people wouldn't notice, that simply means that 99% can't drive well enough to feel their cars. YES, we're only talking about a few percent here - but it should be worth a good second off Road Atlanta, for example (because you can consistently go deeper before braking, particularly 1, 5, 6, and 10a), and that's enough to get a WHOLE lot closer to those 1-2 Hondas.
Oh, yes, Kev, of course, bending the sheet out of the way would work fine. Envy your sheet experience, would love to have it. I suspect most folks pull the splash guard off for racing in the dry, and it wouldn't be worth the time, I suspect, to put them on for a rain run - brakes are likely hot enough to keep them ready anyway. Racing, I'd pull them for the additional air flow.
Thanx for arguing with me, guys! Hope you had a wonderful Xmas, have an absolutely fabulous New Year (stay safe, please), and very much hope you have the successful next year you all deserve. (we can keep arguing -- just wanted to slip in here how much I value you folks :-) )
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