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    Stage rallyists and RallyCrossers: where are you getting your 14" gravel/dirt rally tires?

    The following standbys are out of commission:

    Silverstonetyresusa.com / Silverstone
    Team Illuminada / Hankook
    Rally-Tire.com / Lassa
    Susquehanna / Hankook & Yokohama

    Justin with DMack doesn't have any medium compound 14's in stock, only softs. Softs shred like Playdoh in the South, so they're useless to me.

    Edit: Tread Zone only has the 14" Yokohama A035 in soft compound, too.
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    Lassa's from Burak @ Rally-tire :/
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    Can you go 15'' ? You probablly know that you'll have way more option

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    If anyone made a rally tire with a 60-series or lower profile, I'd switch to 15's. The smallest 15-inch DMack would be roughly an extra 1.5 inches in outer diameter over stock, which wouldn't help a low-displacement car like mine.

    If the 14-inch rally tire market totally vaporizes (it's already 75% there), I may have to switch.
    '92 SE-R RallyCrosser / '01 Miata Sport topless hooligan / '03 Mazda6s pimpmobile / '04 Chevy 2500HD gas addict

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    Plan B: go international.

    I ordered ordered a pair of Maxsports in medium and a pair in hard compound via Demon Tweeks UK. I don't know much about them, but even with quoted shipping at $197 for the four tires, they'll come out cheaper per tire than DMack or anything available stateside.

    Edit: make that $257 dollars shipping. Their web site didn't give an accurate quote. Still cheaper than a set of DMacks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wildmane View Post
    Lassa's from Burak @ Rally-tire :/
    People have been having a really hard time getting tires out of Burak for the last several months to a year...

    I have a set of new Lassas that I'll be using in a week at Ojibwe Forests Rally, but I had to piece them together from a couple different guys who wrecked their cars (and haven't finished new builds) before they could use them.

    DMack makes a 14", and the new guy importing them I think has gotten in at least some in 14". BUt it seems like a loosing battle. I'm planning on moving over to 15" eventually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimR View Post
    Plan B: go international.

    I ordered ordered a pair of Maxsports in medium and a pair in hard compound via Demon Tweeks UK. I don't know much about them, but even with quoted shipping at $197 for the four tires, they'll come out cheaper per tire than DMack or anything available stateside.

    Edit: make that $257 dollars shipping. Their web site didn't give an accurate quote. Still cheaper than a set of DMacks.
    Which ones did you go for?

    The RB3 looks like a decent gravel pattern, but the RB1 is actually more interesting to me, because it looks like the best mud option I've seen in a 14.
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    Most of my use is grass RallyCross, so I went with the RB1. On a 2WD car, I think cutting through the grass and loam with a more aggressive tread pattern could be the ticket in the conditions I see most often.

    I have a pair of 14" DMack mediums (more like the RB3/Pirelli/Michelin/etc pattern) and a pair of Hankook R201s for when the surface gets to be smoother at bigger events with lots of runs. The semi-improved roads used in stage rally probably favor the Maxsport RB3 over the RB1 unless it gets soggy.

    I have a pair of Silverstone muds, and those have a lot of void space separating tall chunky tread blocks. They'll round off in a hurry in dry conditions, though. The RB1 looks to split the difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vector View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by wildmane View Post
    Lassa's from Burak @ Rally-tire :/
    People have been having a really hard time getting tires out of Burak for the last several months to a year...

    I have a set of new Lassas that I'll be using in a week at Ojibwe Forests Rally, but I had to piece them together from a couple different guys who wrecked their cars (and haven't finished new builds) before they could use them.

    DMack makes a 14", and the new guy importing them I think has gotten in at least some in 14". BUt it seems like a loosing battle. I'm planning on moving over to 15" eventually.
    Yeah, I bought mine over a year ago last summer.
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    Any 2014 news on the 14-inch tire front?

    The Maxsport RB1's are not sturdy enough for RallyCross use. I've debeaded them twice, and gotten slow leaks in two others. The sidewalls are very soft, like a street tire, which doesn't cut it on a FWD car that steers and powers on the same end. Rocky Mountain Motorsports carries a Black Rocket brand (Scandinavian retreads), but the review says they are also soft-sidewalled.

    The DMack sizing isn't optimal, but it looks like they are the only game in town. I'd rather have the 175/65-14 than the DMack 175/70-14 for acceleration.

    Does anyone carry 14-inch Yokohamas, Silverstones, Pirellis, etc., right now? UK Shipping is a monster.
    '92 SE-R RallyCrosser / '01 Miata Sport topless hooligan / '03 Mazda6s pimpmobile / '04 Chevy 2500HD gas addict

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    Default 14" rally tires?

    I've actually been using some Falken 14 inch tires I got without thinking about it a while back. They have a nasty reputation for failing without any damage. But they're about all I have for options right now. Starting to look hard for 15" wheels and a new final drive.
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    DMack's smallest 15-inch tire is 175/70-15, which works out to a 24.3" outer diameter. Their smallest 14-inch tire has a 23.4" inch outer diameter. Stock is just shy of a 23" OD.

    Rub might be a problem with a 15-inch rally tire. Worse, in my case I couldn't change the final drive in RallyCross without jumping to the highest prep category, leaving me with some awkward first/second gear work.

    No easy answer. At least we're guaranteed to spend a lot of money, no matter what we do.
    '92 SE-R RallyCrosser / '01 Miata Sport topless hooligan / '03 Mazda6s pimpmobile / '04 Chevy 2500HD gas addict

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    Put a WTB ad on specialstage or rallyanarchy. Dmacks seem to be the only game in town nowadays.
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    I ultimately got a pair of 14-inch Yokohama A035's from Demon Tweeks UK to get me through 2014 until hopefully something better comes along. With shipping and customs fees, they were about $240 each.

    They arrived at my door in three days, which was impressive. Not so hot was having to call five UPS phone numbers to get someone in the UPS customs brokerage department that would release the tires for delivery. They had to confirm the tire size. The tire size stamped on the tires banded together sitting in their warehouse. A week later they sent me a bill for customs brokerage $20 on top of what I was charged for shipping. Good job, team.
    '92 SE-R RallyCrosser / '01 Miata Sport topless hooligan / '03 Mazda6s pimpmobile / '04 Chevy 2500HD gas addict

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    I got my Michelins used & cheap when a stage rally came through the area.
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