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2011-04-15 21:09:39
#41
Maybe my question was misunderstood. Kelford has 3 different versions.

184c V1
184c V2
and
184c V3

^Out of those three, I was wondering if they had a revision close to the sr20 OEM centerlines for a drop and go on stock cam gears at 0,0 that make more power than the sr16ve N1 cams. I already have a set of N1's.
2011-04-15 23:01:08
#42
Whats the point of running cams like that without adjustable cam gears???
2011-04-15 23:24:12
#43
What id like is cam settings on the v2s on the stroker motors. It would help me dial it in faster on the dyno if I had decent baseline to start from.

Stratton.
2011-04-16 15:11:54
#44
I seems mid range and torque helps us out with our long sr16 gearing. how much midrange and torque is sacrificed with theese cams ? or are they all gains above 6k?
2011-04-16 15:18:40
#45
Absolutely none. Atleast on my 2.3 I gained whp and tq from idle to 9.5k.
2011-04-16 20:10:06
#46
Originally Posted by MR-4Door-SR20DET
Maybe my question was misunderstood. Kelford has 3 different versions.

184c V1
184c V2
and
184c V3

^Out of those three, I was wondering if they had a revision close to the sr20 OEM centerlines for a drop and go on stock cam gears at 0,0 that make more power than the sr16ve N1 cams. I already have a set of N1's.


Are you talking stock block or just stock CL's?
Either way, no not really, the reason n1's are more or less drop and go is they have huge ramps which means they can take a whole heap of valve lash without affecting performance or noise.
If kelford did make a cam that could out perform the n1, it would need quicker ramps which would mean at the very least setting the valve lash.
Someone should hit them up though, I think the should make a cam between the n1 and 184c for stock blocks with a little less ovelap than the 184c's.

On a slightly related note, did you know that Kelford recommend running 0.022" lash on N1's, because N1's have such massive ramps running such loose lash reduces the seat to seat duration, gaining a decent amount of midrange.
2011-04-18 20:15:06
#47
Originally Posted by STRATTON
What id like is cam settings on the v2s on the stroker motors. It would help me dial it in faster on the dyno if I had decent baseline to start from.

Stratton.


anybody ? jaime, rocco or dre ?

stratton.
2011-04-18 20:16:14
#48
Originally Posted by nick
Are you talking stock block or just stock CL's?
Either way, no not really, the reason n1's are more or less drop and go is they have huge ramps which means they can take a whole heap of valve lash without affecting performance or noise.
If kelford did make a cam that could out perform the n1, it would need quicker ramps which would mean at the very least setting the valve lash.
Someone should hit them up though, I think the should make a cam between the n1 and 184c for stock blocks with a little less ovelap than the 184c's.

On a slightly related note, did you know that Kelford recommend running 0.022" lash on N1's, because N1's have such massive ramps running such loose lash reduces the seat to seat duration, gaining a decent amount of midrange.


On a 2.3L 92mm piston x86mm stock crank.
2011-04-18 20:36:03
#49
Originally Posted by STRATTON
anybody ? jaime, rocco or dre ?

stratton.


Isn't there a standard tool used to dial in cams?
2011-04-18 21:45:50
#50
Im a tunning noob. Just wanted a good starting point. Jaime and faz knows what im talking bout. Them big cranks through alot of shit off.

Stratton.
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