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Thread: The ins and outs of the stock idle control system.

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2013-06-27 05:49:12
#11
Is it just me, or does this seem to be missing from the VE engine?

2013-06-27 05:52:30
#12
The setup on the throttle body replaces that.
2013-06-27 12:36:24
#13
Yes, the wax actuator on the VE throttle body cracks the throttle body open when cold. When warm, the wax expands and closes the throttle body completely. This takes place of the cold idle valve.
2013-10-02 21:01:18
#14
Originally Posted by BenFenner

Mechanism #4) IACV - Air Regulator also known as AICV (Auxiliary Idle Control Valve) or Cold Idle Valve. It is open when the valve is cold, and slowly closes as the valve warms up from the incoming air and from an internal electric heater. It should close completely when warm. It accomplishes this with a bi-metal strip. This is a stand-alone assembly. It can be found by the firewall below or behind the intake manifold.
More: http://www.sr20-forum.com/600784-post18.html

I'm wanting to know this for sure because I'm installing an O2 induction IM and would like to re-incorporate the AAC.


This is very important and seems to be lost on a few people. All of these idle controls are in "parallel" and none of them are in series. None of them control the amount of air going to another control. They are all independent. It may not look like it when you first view the air passageways, but they are all independent.

*simplified idle air passageways diagram goes here*



Do you know how this is routed? I looked at my IM and it seems that this goes from an opening (non-vacuum) going into the IM 'passage' which then goes to this AAC and then to the IM..so in other words it looks like:

Intake piping -> Closed pathway through IM -> AAC -> IM

So I think the AAC simply lets air from the intake piping into the IM when the throttle is closed. It looks like the AAC connects between the two vacuum ports on the IM but I don't think that's accurate, I think the AAC only connects directly into the plenum once, not twice and the other end connects into the intake piping via a closed path inside the IM.
Last edited by gomba on 2013-10-02 at 21-06-42.
2013-10-04 16:43:59
#15
@gomba, you are correct. There is an aluminum passageway cast into the intake manifold that this device uses as part of the tract to the intake piping. This is a passageway completely separate from the intake plenum, even though they are part of the same casting. Depending on which intake manifold you have, there are a few of these passageways for air and (more often) coolant throughout.
Last edited by BenFenner on 2013-10-04 at 16-45-10.
2013-10-04 17:05:16
#16
Cool, answers my question! Also confirms I had the right idea.

I wonder why Nissan just didn't run a long hose directly from the AAC to the intake pipe and instead chose to use the manifold as a coupler between the two.

Does the pathway also feed the IACV?
Last edited by gomba on 2013-10-04 at 17-41-31.
2013-10-04 19:16:06
#17
It is possible that it also feeds the IACV, I haven't looked at a manifold close enough in a long while to remember. There are tons of sealed off passages in some of these manifolds.
2013-10-07 21:04:01
#18
I think my AICV is dead..I put it on my custom manifold and the car still can't stay running until the car is warm without cracking the throttle. I am missing the IACV though. Hopefully will have that re-incorporated soon.

@BenFenner : Is the operation of the AICV purely mechanical or does the connection back to the ECU control it somehow?? If you were to unplug it, would it still operate the same way?
2013-10-07 21:33:03
#19
Can you use the VE throttle body? it has a device that will crack the TB open for cold idle, and close it when warmed up.
2013-10-08 12:57:59
#20
@gomba, re-read the description above. It tells you exactly how it works.
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