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2008-09-11 23:58:08
#21
Seems like I'm always reading this thread...lol. Lovin' the Wheels and tire section. I learned alot from that
2008-09-15 11:34:11
#22
Use me.
2008-09-30 00:03:47
#23
Re:Shocktek
Shocktek - Is out of business. Based on a shortened strut. Very high quality, bad-ass suspension.

Originally Posted by Sport Compact Car July 2000
The first part of our solution (*to limited suspension travel in the B13), stiffer, shorter shocks, came from Shocktek in Girard, Penn. Shocktek offers semi-custom shocks built to order, and has already built shocks for several SE-R's. They start with Bilstein inverted struts and re-valve and re-size them as necessary. The stock struts (supplied by you) are then modified to accept the Bilstein dampers. Shocktek can also make them adjustable by adding a tapered needle valve in the middle of the piston.

Shocktek can build its shocks with conventional spring seats for stock or off-the-shelf lowering springs, or with threaded collars for race springs. Using threaded collars allowed us to tap into Eibach's vast catalog of race springs. The Eibach Race Spring (ERS) system covers virtually every spring rate possible in 25 lb/in increments, giving us virtually limitless suspension tuning options. (Author uncited, probably Dave Coleman).


I *believe* that Shocktek was using the Ground Control "threaded collars for race springs."


For SCC's B13, DC used Eibach ERS Springs, not sure about the collars - prob GC.

They may be out of business but the July 2000 SCC article is excellent on how they first set up the B13 with custom work from Shocktek - e.g. how they arrived at the right rates, etc.

I scanned my copy awhile ago, IMHO it's a good read, reinforces many of the excellent points in this thread. Very good section on damper rebound frequency, and IIRC a good discussion of "natural frequency" of a well dialed in chassis. The one missing link is why DC swapped these out for Progress less than 4-5 years later...guessing combo of travel and custom valving, or just out of business and needed new CO's.

Nissan Sentra SE-R - Part V, Suspension Magic



If the images are too small drop me a PM and I'll post links to larger scans.
2008-10-22 18:20:36
#24
Well, I'm probably going to end up selling my car to my brother and decided that I should put my Tein Camber plates on. They fit btw....

Haven't put the car on the ground yet, I'm wrestling with Neutral position switch, by the way when you take it off, you lose all your trans fluid :squint: .


BTW, passenger side allen bolt heads are a little tricky to get to with the PSfluid line in the way.


Sorry Shawn! you have more to update!!!!











2008-10-22 23:08:14
#25
LCA Bushings Comapre OEM to Poly
This is why OEM bushings are complete garbage for lack of longevity and slop:

2008-11-29 23:09:42
#26
Originally Posted by BenFenner
Use me.

It shall be incorporated my friend.

I have just done the first few updates on The Suspension Thread. There is a new "Preface" added at the top that explains the lengthy process.

Originally Posted by superblackz
For SCC's B13, DC used Eibach ERS Springs, not sure about the collars - prob GC.

They may be out of business but the July 2000 SCC article is excellent on how they first set up the B13 with custom work from Shocktek - e.g. how they arrived at the right rates, etc.

I scanned my copy awhile ago, IMHO it's a good read, reinforces many of the excellent points in this thread. Very good section on damper rebound frequency, and IIRC a good discussion of "natural frequency" of a well dialed in chassis. The one missing link is why DC swapped these out for Progress less than 4-5 years later...guessing combo of travel and custom valving, or just out of business and needed new CO's.

If the images are too small drop me a PM and I'll post links to larger scans.

Updates (finally) underway. As of today. It will take me a couple of months to get the Suspension Thread updated in two (2) locations.

Originally Posted by Camarok
Sorry Shawn! you have more to update!!!!

No problems, updates in full swing.

On this forum alone, I have "subscribed" to twenty-nine (29) threads. All of which need to be scrutinized, categorized, and incorporated.

Originally Posted by superblackz
This is why OEM bushings are complete garbage for lack of longevity and slop:


I not only will incorporate that, but I *think* I have subscribed to other threads of yours, or maybe you posted in the Suspension Thread on the other forum (?).

It is a long, methodical, tedious process to update The Suspension Thread. If you were to print it out, the damn thread comes to eighty-one (81) pages!

Thank you all for you input and contributions.

Updates are currently in the works, gentlemen.

Shawn B
2008-11-30 00:00:12
#27
Originally Posted by Shawn
If you were to print it out, the damn thread comes to eighty-one (81) pages!


And I have done just that! I can't stand reading long articles online, I prefer a hard copy if I can.
2008-11-30 00:07:19
#28
Originally Posted by xCONWRATHx
And I have done just that! I can't stand reading long articles online, I prefer a hard copy if I can.

You'e hard-core dude!

You can then decide when you want to print yourself a Version 2.0. I would suggest you wait till at least post-February 2009.

I only figured the page-count out recently, when I was printing out just one page of the thread, hit the wrong button and then had to hit "cancel" right quick. No, I did not want eighty-one pages.

What length manuscript officially qualifies as a "book"? ............
2009-04-15 14:12:51
#29
Shawn B
I hate to be a bother I remember us discussing megan coilovers for the B13 on the other forum and noticed that they haven't been added to the suspension thread and it was just updated. If you would like more info on them there are a few people running them on the forum.

I have also noticed it looks like B+G seems to be coming back out with suspension parts for our cars

Here is a link:
http://http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BG-ADJUSABLE-COILOVER-NISSAN-SENTRA-B13-N14-341-N15_W0QQitemZ270367522423QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item270367522423&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=72%3A1171|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318
2009-04-22 17:38:34
#30
Can you combine the updates to this one to the one on Sr20forum? Its last update was 1/18/08
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