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Thread: TDMi Outer Tie Rod End Fitment Issue?

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2016-10-05 01:53:31
#11
first try to run without a fsb and see if u like it?.. because now I'm staring to consider it.. back in like 2000-2001 my older brother was big into b13's and he often tells me to remove my fsb and just run a stiff rsb.. it suppose to handle better but in just to lazy... but I would love your feed back on that..and also how are these tie rod ends better then moog? or is it just for looks?
2016-10-05 01:56:09
#12
like rioredstang dose
Last edited by team sikniss on 2016-10-05 at 01-59-56.
2016-10-05 02:32:49
#13
Originally Posted by team
first try to run without a fsb and see if u like it?.. because now I'm staring to consider it.. back in like 2000-2001 my older brother was big into b13's and he often tells me to remove my fsb and just run a stiff rsb.. it suppose to handle better but in just to lazy... but I would love your feed back on that..and also how are these tie rod ends better then moog? or is it just for looks?


Mounts the inner tie rods below the knuckle instead of above it, which is to get the inner tie rods parallel with the lower control arms. That would allow them to follow the same arc in the suspension travel which helps to eliminate bumpsteer.

As far as what I am going to do with my sway bar, I may mount the stock one up to see how it feels before I completely remove it. That should give the tie rods the amount of clearance that they need to clear. I will let you know when I get to that point. Will be a little while though, as I have a few more parts to change out before I get to my alignment.

Branden
aka hawaiiaNX
2016-10-05 02:43:31
#14
The tie rod ends are not better, only adjustable. I use a bump steer gauge and hiem joints to adjust this. I don't believe in just bolting something on. OEM front end geometry was ride and drive not performance and handling. The front ends were built for production. This is why check the front end specs, then optimize them for handling. I have tried some things I didn't like. I have bought things and had to modify them to work as they were designed. I have tried different springs and shock valving to find what is comfortable to me. I don't like just bolt it on. Test it and see if it works. If you don't have some of the tools I use, go to the dirt tracks and make friends and ask for their help.
2016-10-05 14:27:26
#15
Could always go to a Suspension Techniques front bar and it mounts under the LCA freeing LOTS of room. The ST bar is same thickness as Progress bar.
2016-10-12 14:22:32
#16
Originally Posted by hawaiiaNX
Originally Posted by Kyle
Tie rods should be parallel with the LCA when on the ground. Anything different will increase bump steer significantly over stock.


This is good info. I am not sure why, but I was under the impression that the tie rods had to be parallel to the ground and not the LCA's. Makes sense now, as they need to follow the same arc...and they can't do that if the LCA's angle up but the inner tie rods are parallel to the ground. Not sure what I was thinking.


Kyle is right, needs to be parallel with the LCA. You got the idea too, bump steer happens when tie rods follow a different arch then the LCA's.

On my old B15, which was about 1" lower then stock, I got major bump steer when I mounted tie rods under the knuckle. Went back to top mounted and car was very stable again. You only really need to start doing bump steer corrections when you go really low, probably 2-3" low.
2016-10-12 21:49:30
#17
Originally Posted by Vadim
Originally Posted by hawaiiaNX
Originally Posted by Kyle
Tie rods should be parallel with the LCA when on the ground. Anything different will increase bump steer significantly over stock.


This is good info. I am not sure why, but I was under the impression that the tie rods had to be parallel to the ground and not the LCA's. Makes sense now, as they need to follow the same arc...and they can't do that if the LCA's angle up but the inner tie rods are parallel to the ground. Not sure what I was thinking.


Kyle is right, needs to be parallel with the LCA. You got the idea too, bump steer happens when tie rods follow a different arch then the LCA's.

On my old B15, which was about 1" lower then stock, I got major bump steer when I mounted tie rods under the knuckle. Went back to top mounted and car was very stable again. You only really need to start doing bump steer corrections when you go really low, probably 2-3" low.


Good to know on all points! Pretty sure I am not very low. Maybe two finger gap between the fenders and the tires (205/50R15). There looked to be more of a discrepancy in angles with tie rod mounted under the knuckle than over, meaning I would probably be worse off with the tie rods mounted under.

Branden
aka hawaiiaNX
2016-10-12 21:50:54
#18
Originally Posted by NissanEgg
Could always go to a Suspension Techniques front bar and it mounts under the LCA freeing LOTS of room. The ST bar is same thickness as Progress bar.


Pretty sure my SE-R has a ST bar up front but don't recall it mounting under the LCA. I'll double check this afternoon though.

Branden
aka hawaiiaNX
2016-10-13 15:01:54
#19
All ST front bars I have ever seen since 2003 mount under the LCA. My old NX2000 from 03 and my 91 SE-R from 05, and now my 94 LE have the ST bars and all mount under the LCA. Progress, Whiteline, and others mount on top of the LCA like stock.
2016-10-13 20:22:23
#20
Originally Posted by NissanEgg
All ST front bars I have ever seen since 2003 mount under the LCA. My old NX2000 from 03 and my 91 SE-R from 05, and now my 94 LE have the ST bars and all mount under the LCA. Progress, Whiteline, and others mount on top of the LCA like stock.


Shoot, forgot to check on what's on my SE-R. Will go look at lunch.

Branden
aka hawaiiaNX

EDIT: @NissanEgg is absolutely correct. ST swaybar mounts under the LCA. Maybe i'll move my stock sway bar back onto the SE-R, in case I feel like using the ST bar on the NX.
Last edited by hawaiiaNX on 2016-10-13 at 20-54-19.
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