Welcome to the SR20 Community Forum - The Dash.
Register
SR20 forum logo

Thread: How many interested in a new high end coil over at a good price?

+ Reply To Thread
Posts: 91-100 of 129
2014-10-02 03:48:28
#91
Now hold on, please understand that it's not fair to compare your GT1 to Megan/D2/China, unless of course you plan on selling it for $1500 or less, which you already said it will be in the upper $2k's.

I personally don't care about GT1's because they are out of my price range, I want information about the Zeta-R/Zeta-S. Also do you have any technical details on the difference between those two product lines?
2014-10-02 04:47:51
#92
As far as Zeta-S / Zeta-R, the main difference is just the pillow ball front top mount.
Zeta-S are rubber bush top mount (normally double wishbone suspensions), where Zeta-R have pilowball front top mount for camber adjustments (Most MacPherson Strut suspensions).

This thread was about high end suspensions, then some how people tell me the the Zeta-S / Zeta-R isn't high end at around the $1200 mark (which it isn't), then I got people telling me the GT1 is too high end as it is in the high $2000 mark…

Like I said, I will bring the relevant info in due time but at this moment it isn't a priority.
But I am taking all suggestion on board to help formulate our initial presentation.

Jerrick
2014-10-02 04:50:00
#93
Originally Posted by MeisterR
As far as Zeta-S / Zeta-R, the main difference is just the pillow ball front top mount.
Zeta-S are rubber bush top mount (normally double wishbone suspensions), where Zeta-R have pilowball front top mount for camber adjustments (Most MacPherson Strut suspensions).

Thank you, I appreciate that, the descriptions made the Zeta-S line seem like a more of an inferior line to the Zeta-R.

Originally Posted by MeisterR

This thread was about high end suspensions, then some how people tell me the the Zeta-S / Zeta-R isn't high end at around the $1200 mark (which it isn't), then I got people telling me the GT1 is too high end as it is in the high $2000 mark…


Now hold on a second, this thread started with OP talking about the Zeta-R line. He was talking about high end entry level suspension, which is exactly what Zeta-R is.

We started wondering how high end the Zeta-R is compared to the usual China suspects. To be specific I'm curious how it compares to BC's. Now at some point someone mentioned higher end stuff, at that point you started talking about GT1's. While GT1's are much higher end then Zeta series, it is outside of the original scope that this thread started on .

With that said, I am fairly interested in trying the Zeta-S for my USDM P11. As long as the damper that is used is better then what BC offers, custom spring rates are available (with proper shock valving).
2014-10-02 05:05:05
#94
Like I said, I will bring up all the relevant info in due time.
With that said, I think the UKDM P11 is different from the USDM P11, so it may mean I don't even have anything in stock for you.

Not sure about that, I will need to double check.

Jerrick
2014-10-02 05:06:40
#95
Yeah I believe the rear mounts are similar to USDM B15's. Not exactly sure on that though. No worries I'm still shopping around, need to sell my B15 BC's first before I can buy a set for P11 anyway .
2014-10-02 13:31:40
#96
Originally Posted by udunnome
Not taking any sides, but this is the reason why products are never developed on forums like these. We all keep jabbing until the final blow knocks out a possibility of a vendor..lol. I know we all want the specifics, but lets respect the business side or the business strategy each company takes. I know if i had a company, i'd have problem answering some of the questions asked. These are sensitive material or outright undisclosed. It's like you calling up Nissan or Mercedes and asking them what company they used to source all their parts...lol. If people knew, they go right after the source and create their own products! Or better yet, go straight to the stock market. Why do you guys think so much knock off exists. But then again, it doesn't hurt to ask...=)
I think a better approach would be to have a possible vendor like this to approach the forum(which they have in this case), respect what they have to say, and have the suspensions gurus ask if they can produce what our community wants; valving, spring rates...etc. I can care less where each part is coming from or compare dyno graphs. Obviously, they all relate, but in general, if it performs the way we want it, I'm fine w/ that. If the product is made, send the product to some of the gurus in our community, set a price and be done w/ it. Most people buy things word of mouth or due to popularity anyways. When it comes to cars, EVERYTHING is subjective. Everyone has their own definition of high end. Look up what's stiff for a suspension or spring rate, everyone's opinion is different.

Enough about my philosophy..lol.

I'll be interested in getting a set if you include pillow ball mounts. I just want to bolt this on, go get an alignment and be done w/ it. As far as spring rate or valving, just make something, send it to Ben or one of the mods or gurus for testing. If they're good, i'm good...



I guess you weren't around when the community got screwed by a couple of vendors in the past.
2014-10-03 09:22:18
#97
So you are instantly tarring J with the same brush, they have a huge market already in the UK I myself have been using them since 2009 without issue.
2014-10-03 12:02:59
#98
nope, just trying to get more info. most of my issue was toward the OP and not the manufacturer itself.

edit: IMHO, we are not bashing/being negative towards MeisterR. to me, most the question has a valid point. I for one like to know what I am buying and not just going to buy something because some people are saying that "they are good."
Last edited by Keo on 2014-10-03 at 12-07-04.
2014-10-03 13:25:33
#99
Its alright, I sort of know this will happen (it happens on every forums I join).
I have to say it is probably a little more aggressive in the USA than the UK, but it was also something I expected.

All the questions here are understandable so we will put up something in the future.
That is why I wanted to come in here and just toss the questions out to see the reaction, and I can then formulate a response base on the questions.

Like I said, it is in the work. Won't happen over night (but it will certainly happen before I will offer anything for sale to the USA).

Jerrick
2014-10-03 14:09:03
#100
That's an interesting point, I saw similar statements on Subaru forums related to ECU tuning. Europeans are more wiling pay, while Americans tend to shop around more, and look for better deals.
+ Reply To Thread
  • [Type to search users.]
  • Quick Reply
    Thread Information
    There are currently ? users browsing this thread. (? members & ? guests)
    StubUserName

    Back to top