Hub differences between GA16 and SR20? - SR20 Community Forum

natethebrown · 11-18-2008, 11:36 AM

I am in need of some spare front hubs. It seems that the knuckle setup on our car puts a lot of extra stress on the inner bearing race which will wear out faster then the outer race. This in turn eats away at the hub, permanently damaging it. I have seen about 5 bad hubs myself and likely have another pair that are bad but haven't checked yet.

My question is are the hubs on all basic sentras/200sx the same as the se-r editions? Unfortunately, there are no junk yards around my location that have 2.0L b13/b14s so I would really like to bring my shop press to a junk yard for a couple of hours and get a bunch of spare hubs from some ga16 cars. I did check the part numbers on bearings between basic models and se-r models and they had the same part number, but that only confirms the hubs have the same press fit diameter against the bearing.

Hanibal · 11-18-2008, 11:57 AM

I believe the hubs are the same. My n14 pulsar with sr18de has the same hub as my buddies' b13 sunny gts with ga16de and b14 sentra with ga15de. Also I have bought ser wheel bearings from the usa for my car

Hanibal · 11-18-2008, 11:59 AM

i believe these wheel bearings wear out quickly because of bad control arms

squirlz · 11-18-2008, 02:53 PM

On B14's they are the same.

natethebrown · 11-18-2008, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Hanibal

I believe the hubs are the same. My n14 pulsar with sr18de has the same hub as my buddies' b13 sunny gts with ga16de and b14 sentra with ga15de. Also I have bought ser wheel bearings from the usa for my car

Sweet...sounds like ill be getting some spares soon

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Originally Posted by Hanibal

i believe these wheel bearings wear out quickly because of bad control arms

I guess it is good that I have rebuilt my control arms on both my 200sx and NX2000, bushings and all.

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Originally Posted by squirlz

On B14's they are the same.

Figured as much. Probably a good manufacturing strategy incorporated in the design.

Guess I confirmed what I believed to be true.

JimR · 11-18-2008, 05:24 PM

Data point:

I shoved some old B13 GA16DE axle ends in the hubs of my B13 SE-R parts car to roll it around. Worked okay, so that tells me the spline count is the same. Can't imagine why other dimensions would be different.

The knuckles from a 1.6L will definitely work. Just have to pry off the smaller 1.6L brake dust shields.

natethebrown · 11-18-2008, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by JimR

Data point:

The knuckles from a 1.6L will definitely work. Just have to pry off the smaller 1.6L brake dust shields.

Be careful, unfortunately that is not the case for NXs.

Another NX Part difference found

jen36 · 11-25-2008, 01:01 PM

haha! i told him that it was diffrent!^^

DC Scotty · 11-25-2008, 09:03 PM

Yep, NX's has different spindles: 91/92 are different that 93 NXs and are not interchangable. Maybe the SE-Rs and G20 are the same, but I dont know..

Check the angle and length of the spindle arms for the steering endlinks. Put them side-by-side. If different, you will see it immediately..

natethebrown · 11-26-2008, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by DC Scotty

Yep, NX's has different spindles: 91/92 are different that 93 NXs and are not interchangable. Maybe the SE-Rs and g20 are the same, but I dont know..

Check the angle and length of the spindle arms for the steering endlinks. Put them side-by-side. If different, you will see it immediately..

Actually G20s have a completely different suspension geometry then either the b13 or 14. I had the pleasure (or was it horror?) of working in my buddies G20 the other day. I was getting ready to take the axles out of the knuckles (so we could drop the engine), pulled the wheel off and stopped......"hey man um...this is different." Here is a pic of what I saw:

From what I have been hearing the g20 suspension geometry is actually better then our b13s, but that is only what I have heard.

11-18-2008, 11:36 AM	#1 (permalink)
natethebrown SR20 wiz wannabie Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Huntsville Alabama iTrader: (0)	Hub differences between GA16 and SR20? I am in need of some spare front hubs. It seems that the knuckle setup on our car puts a lot of extra stress on the inner bearing race which will wear out faster then the outer race. This in turn eats away at the hub, permanently damaging it. I have seen about 5 bad hubs myself and likely have another pair that are bad but haven't checked yet. My question is are the hubs on all basic sentras/200sx the same as the se-r editions? Unfortunately, there are no junk yards around my location that have 2.0L b13/b14s so I would really like to bring my shop press to a junk yard for a couple of hours and get a bunch of spare hubs from some ga16 cars. I did check the part numbers on bearings between basic models and se-r models and they had the same part number, but that only confirms the hubs have the same press fit diameter against the bearing. __________________ 98' Blue 200sx se-r (de-lemonified) - BC Stage 2 cams (came with the replacement engine), JWT POP charger, Prothane Motor Mounts, ES Front control arm bushings, Moog ball-joints and tie-rod ends, Tein Basics, SSAC knockoff header, SS front brake lines, rear beam bent 93' Sapphire Blue NX2000 - ES Front control arm bushings, Spicer ball-joints, Moog tie-rod ends, Beck/Arnley front wheel bearings 91' Maroon NX2000 - $200 shell that will someday be a VEd track slut

11-18-2008, 02:53 PM	#4 (permalink)
squirlz Why not? Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Madison, WI iTrader: (2)	On B14's they are the same. __________________ Project B14 Sentra SER: Check on progress here. 98% of teenagers do or has tried smoking pot. If you're one of the 2% who hasn't, copy & paste this into your sig.

11-25-2008, 09:03 PM	#9 (permalink)
DC Scotty Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Fort Washington, Maryland iTrader: (0)	Yep, NX's has different spindles: 91/92 are different that 93 NXs and are not interchangable. Maybe the SE-Rs and G20 are the same, but I dont know.. Check the angle and length of the spindle arms for the steering endlinks. Put them side-by-side. If different, you will see it immediately.. __________________ 1993 NX2000 -- JDM DE, ActiveTuning Grnd Kit & RSTB, Cusco FSTB, Progress Rear Swaybar, Hyperco/AGX, JWT POP Charger Full SS 2.5" VRS SS Catback, SSAC 2.5" header/downpipe, German Headlamps and French Yellow Fogs, Power Leather Seats.

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11-18-2008, 11:57 AM	#2 (permalink)
Hanibal SR20 Newbie Join Date: Dec 2007 iTrader: (0)	I believe the hubs are the same. My n14 pulsar with sr18de has the same hub as my buddies' b13 sunny gts with ga16de and b14 sentra with ga15de. Also I have bought ser wheel bearings from the usa for my car

11-18-2008, 11:59 AM	#3 (permalink)
Hanibal SR20 Newbie Join Date: Dec 2007 iTrader: (0)	i believe these wheel bearings wear out quickly because of bad control arms

11-18-2008, 05:24 PM	#6 (permalink)
JimR In it no matter what Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Rogers, AR iTrader: (0)	Data point: I shoved some old B13 GA16DE axle ends in the hubs of my B13 SE-R parts car to roll it around. Worked okay, so that tells me the spline count is the same. Can't imagine why other dimensions would be different. The knuckles from a 1.6L will definitely work. Just have to pry off the smaller 1.6L brake dust shields.