B14 KYB AGX Hyperco - SR20 Community Forum

Coheed · 09-25-2008, 03:36 AM

I finally got around to installing this setup today. I have it set at 3 in front and 5 in rear. Seems a lil bouncy in the front, but very solid. I love the suspension. I took the front sway bar off and now the car handles very neutral. A lil bit of understeer, but it grips well!

What settings should I try out for a smoother ride without blowing the valves to pieces?

Sentrixx · 09-25-2008, 05:50 AM

Well if I remember correctly... 3 in the front is the stiffest. So you might want to try 4 in the front.

From softest to stiffest in the front its: 1,2,4,3.

Currently my DD has AGX's and Road Magnets set at 2 front and 6 rear. I like it.

Old guy · 09-26-2008, 09:48 AM

If you really want neutral handling, get the rear beam bent to zero toe in. I am running the same setup at 3 and 6 with the stock front sway bar and a bent beam and the rear of the car follows the front no matter what I do.

squirlz · 09-26-2008, 11:46 AM

AGX's run from 1-4 and 1-8, 1 being softest and 4/8 being the stiffest.

One thing i noticed when playing around with my GC's and AGX's is that the rear has to be lowered the same as the front or you get too much weight in the front and the rear seems to drag along. Once i got the rear a little lower it balanced it out and the rear followed. It road better, handled better, and i was able to get the shocks set properly. I now have it at 3F 5R and it is great. I am running 325LB springs in the front and 300R which is a little stiffer than Road Magnets (300F/250R)

I would also try a rear sway to go along with your setup. With both front and rear you get a more neutral feel. Basically it comes down to playing around with some things to get it the way you want. Try making the rear a little stiffer. I would try leaving the front and stiffening the rear to see what happens.

Coheed · 09-26-2008, 01:36 PM

Well I would like to try diff sway bar setups, but in reality they don't do anything anymore. I may try one in the rear, but the beam is getting set to 0 in the future. I don't want the car to be too tail-happy. Understeer is easier to control. I like the way the car feels the way it is setup, but it seems like I may need an alignment.

I will be doing the whiteline control arm bushings since they are cheap. I hear they make a night/day difference. What is the spring rate on the B14 hypercos? I have very very little body roll at the limit, the car feels awesome.

Today I am going to try full soft and see how she feels. I like the way full-stiff feels, but it doesn't seem to soak up any bumps haha.

zer099 · 09-26-2008, 02:20 PM

I run with 4 up front and 6 in the rear. I have AGX and Roadmagnets as well.

LikeTheMovies · 09-26-2008, 03:46 PM

how is 4/8 the stiffest in the rear? so does that mean 5-8 do nothing?

Coheed · 09-26-2008, 05:59 PM

4 is stiffest in front, and 8 is stiffest in rear. That's why he said 4/8 is the stiffest. 4 for the front, 8 for the rear.

I took the car out today to see how she feels. Handles awesome. Really needs better tires. Also it seems like the fronts start making noise sooner than the rear. So it looks like I still need a lil bit of balancing to get a perfect setup. but overall the car feels great, has more grip when the rear is stiff and the fronts are soft. I have them set at 2/8, but I may go with 3/6 later to see how it feels.

squirlz · 09-26-2008, 07:38 PM

Sounds good, I think it is a guessing game. I am no expert but from playing around with my setup i have learned a few things about my car and general characteristics of the B14.

Sentrixx · 09-26-2008, 09:31 PM

4 is not the stiffest. From what was posted in the past the setting for the front were what I stated above.

1/2/4/3.

This info came from many people's results as well as from KYB.

Sentrixx · 09-26-2008, 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LikeTheMovies

how is 4/8 the stiffest in the rear? so does that mean 5-8 do nothing?

edit

squirlz · 09-26-2008, 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sentrixx

There is no 5 in the front. 1-4 is all you get.

I guess i will spell this out for some people. 4 is full stiff for the FRONT shocks, 8 is full stiff for the REAR shocks. i thought people would get that but i guess not.

Thats funny that KYB says that 1(soft)-4(Hard).

Edit: Also when i installed mine i tested this without the springs installed. I put it on each setting and tested how stiff it was and 4 was definitely the stiffest.

Sentrixx · 09-26-2008, 10:36 PM

Did you get that paper work with yours? And you got yours new or used? I got mine brand new and I didn't get a paper with that at all... That's weird... Well I stand corrected. I always thought it was weird when I wad reading that info before. And that was on NPM a few years back when the Hypercoil gen 2's came out

squirlz · 09-26-2008, 10:44 PM

All 4 shocks came in the boxes with the nuts and the fronts came with little flat head screw drivers.

clean200 · 10-15-2008, 05:44 AM

all dat came wit mine. u should send urs back if u aint get all the equipment... like instructions and screwdrivers and strut nut. but i got mine full stiff all around 4 up front 8 in rear and i take onramps at 90mph no prob. n thats wit bull**** springs.for good handling and a neutral feel i say go wit full stiff. jus try n c how it feels

09-25-2008, 03:36 AM	#1 (permalink)
Coheed SLO2PT0 Join Date: Dec 2007 iTrader: (1)	B14 KYB AGX Hyperco I finally got around to installing this setup today. I have it set at 3 in front and 5 in rear. Seems a lil bouncy in the front, but very solid. I love the suspension. I took the front sway bar off and now the car handles very neutral. A lil bit of understeer, but it grips well! What settings should I try out for a smoother ride without blowing the valves to pieces? __________________ 99 SEL--Charcoal, 442whp 350tq SR16VE, DE crank, GTiR oil pump, Pauter rods, JE VE 8.5:1 pistons, ACL bearings, GSPEC cam gears & crank pulley, VET cams, Protech Log manifold, GT3076r .63ar, Tial 38mm, 3" discharge 3" VRS all the way back. 1G DSM BOV, BIG intercooler, Nismo 740cc injectors, Nismo FPR, Greddy MSS, ARP studs, P11 LSD, Hyperco springs, AD22VF brakes. JWT computer 7500 rev cut, Z32 maf. Dumped the AC.

09-25-2008, 05:50 AM	#2 (permalink)
Sentrixx Helping Noobs since 02' Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Dirty South, FL iTrader: (3)	Well if I remember correctly... 3 in the front is the stiffest. So you might want to try 4 in the front. From softest to stiffest in the front its: 1,2,4,3. Currently my DD has AGX's and Road Magnets set at 2 front and 6 rear. I like it. __________________ Wayne EEA-Western Chapter - Sgt. Covert Ops Cloud White 99 Se-L http://www.cardomain.com/ride/805495

09-26-2008, 11:46 AM	#4 (permalink)
squirlz Why not? Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Madison, WI iTrader: (2)	AGX's run from 1-4 and 1-8, 1 being softest and 4/8 being the stiffest. One thing i noticed when playing around with my GC's and AGX's is that the rear has to be lowered the same as the front or you get too much weight in the front and the rear seems to drag along. Once i got the rear a little lower it balanced it out and the rear followed. It road better, handled better, and i was able to get the shocks set properly. I now have it at 3F 5R and it is great. I am running 325LB springs in the front and 300R which is a little stiffer than Road Magnets (300F/250R) I would also try a rear sway to go along with your setup. With both front and rear you get a more neutral feel. Basically it comes down to playing around with some things to get it the way you want. Try making the rear a little stiffer. I would try leaving the front and stiffening the rear to see what happens. __________________ Project B14 Sentra SER: Check on progress here. 98% of teenagers do or has tried smoking pot. If you're one of the 2% who hasn't, copy & paste this into your sig.

09-26-2008, 01:36 PM	#5 (permalink)
Coheed SLO2PT0 Join Date: Dec 2007 iTrader: (1)	Well I would like to try diff sway bar setups, but in reality they don't do anything anymore. I may try one in the rear, but the beam is getting set to 0 in the future. I don't want the car to be too tail-happy. Understeer is easier to control. I like the way the car feels the way it is setup, but it seems like I may need an alignment. I will be doing the whiteline control arm bushings since they are cheap. I hear they make a night/day difference. What is the spring rate on the B14 hypercos? I have very very little body roll at the limit, the car feels awesome. Today I am going to try full soft and see how she feels. I like the way full-stiff feels, but it doesn't seem to soak up any bumps haha. __________________ 99 SEL--Charcoal, 442whp 350tq SR16VE, DE crank, GTiR oil pump, Pauter rods, JE VE 8.5:1 pistons, ACL bearings, GSPEC cam gears & crank pulley, VET cams, Protech Log manifold, GT3076r .63ar, Tial 38mm, 3" discharge 3" VRS all the way back. 1G DSM BOV, BIG intercooler, Nismo 740cc injectors, Nismo FPR, Greddy MSS, ARP studs, P11 LSD, Hyperco springs, AD22VF brakes. JWT computer 7500 rev cut, Z32 maf. Dumped the AC.

09-26-2008, 02:20 PM	#6 (permalink)
zer099 Red Emblem Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: AGAP, Antartica iTrader: (6)	I run with 4 up front and 6 in the rear. I have AGX and Roadmagnets as well. __________________ -98' 200sx GTi-R, FMIC, 3" turbo back (including 3" screamer), and some other bells and whistles @ 12.5psi, 16.5psi for 5 sec on scramble -96' B14 left stock for the daily drive... also expired -95' S14 going RB26 now -91' S13 w/ SR20DET black top... expired -89' B12 SE... expired I am off on field camp right now in Antartica till I get back in mid Febuary/March. If there is anything you saw for sale of mine you wanted, please contact sanmarinoblue.

09-26-2008, 09:48 AM	#3 (permalink)
Old guy Drivin' my life away Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Atlanta iTrader: (0)	If you really want neutral handling, get the rear beam bent to zero toe in. I am running the same setup at 3 and 6 with the stock front sway bar and a bent beam and the rear of the car follows the front no matter what I do.

09-26-2008, 03:46 PM	#7 (permalink)
LikeTheMovies Sr20 4 Life Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Vermilion/Lima, Ohio iTrader: (9)	how is 4/8 the stiffest in the rear? so does that mean 5-8 do nothing? __________________ 99 Sentra SE-L (Turbo) Avenir Motor/GT28R Turbo/3" Downpipe/Nismo AFPR/370cc@4bar/Calum ECU/Hallman Boost Controller Hypercos W/AGX's and ME Rear Mounts VRS 2.5" Exhaust NX2000 Brakes 14.27@100mph 213whp 198tq. Old Setup New Setup GT28R! 95 200sx Se-R (For Sale) 15.061@91mph

09-26-2008, 05:59 PM	#8 (permalink)
Coheed SLO2PT0 Join Date: Dec 2007 iTrader: (1)	4 is stiffest in front, and 8 is stiffest in rear. That's why he said 4/8 is the stiffest. 4 for the front, 8 for the rear. I took the car out today to see how she feels. Handles awesome. Really needs better tires. Also it seems like the fronts start making noise sooner than the rear. So it looks like I still need a lil bit of balancing to get a perfect setup. but overall the car feels great, has more grip when the rear is stiff and the fronts are soft. I have them set at 2/8, but I may go with 3/6 later to see how it feels. __________________ 99 SEL--Charcoal, 442whp 350tq SR16VE, DE crank, GTiR oil pump, Pauter rods, JE VE 8.5:1 pistons, ACL bearings, GSPEC cam gears & crank pulley, VET cams, Protech Log manifold, GT3076r .63ar, Tial 38mm, 3" discharge 3" VRS all the way back. 1G DSM BOV, BIG intercooler, Nismo 740cc injectors, Nismo FPR, Greddy MSS, ARP studs, P11 LSD, Hyperco springs, AD22VF brakes. JWT computer 7500 rev cut, Z32 maf. Dumped the AC.

09-26-2008, 07:38 PM	#9 (permalink)
squirlz Why not? Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Madison, WI iTrader: (2)	Sounds good, I think it is a guessing game. I am no expert but from playing around with my setup i have learned a few things about my car and general characteristics of the B14. __________________ Project B14 Sentra SER: Check on progress here. 98% of teenagers do or has tried smoking pot. If you're one of the 2% who hasn't, copy & paste this into your sig.

09-26-2008, 09:31 PM	#10 (permalink)
Sentrixx Helping Noobs since 02' Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Dirty South, FL iTrader: (3)	4 is not the stiffest. From what was posted in the past the setting for the front were what I stated above. 1/2/4/3. This info came from many people's results as well as from KYB. __________________ Wayne EEA-Western Chapter - Sgt. Covert Ops Cloud White 99 Se-L http://www.cardomain.com/ride/805495

09-26-2008, 10:36 PM	#13 (permalink)
Sentrixx Helping Noobs since 02' Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Dirty South, FL iTrader: (3)	Did you get that paper work with yours? And you got yours new or used? I got mine brand new and I didn't get a paper with that at all... That's weird... Well I stand corrected. I always thought it was weird when I wad reading that info before. And that was on NPM a few years back when the Hypercoil gen 2's came out __________________ Wayne EEA-Western Chapter - Sgt. Covert Ops Cloud White 99 Se-L http://www.cardomain.com/ride/805495

09-26-2008, 10:44 PM	#14 (permalink)
squirlz Why not? Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Madison, WI iTrader: (2)	All 4 shocks came in the boxes with the nuts and the fronts came with little flat head screw drivers. __________________ Project B14 Sentra SER: Check on progress here. 98% of teenagers do or has tried smoking pot. If you're one of the 2% who hasn't, copy & paste this into your sig.

10-15-2008, 05:44 AM	#15 (permalink)
clean200 Member Join Date: Aug 2008 iTrader: (0)	all dat came wit mine. u should send urs back if u aint get all the equipment... like instructions and screwdrivers and strut nut. but i got mine full stiff all around 4 up front 8 in rear and i take onramps at 90mph no prob. n thats wit bull**** springs.for good handling and a neutral feel i say go wit full stiff. jus try n c how it feels

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