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2011-05-17 02:43:25
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Importing JDM Nissans
SO, a friend and I were talking about the car I would get after finishing grad school. We're up in the Northeast and AWD isn't always necessary, but it helps. He basically told me that I could get the R33 GT-R that I always wanted. Plus, it's a Nissan, it revs high AND who in the hell ELSE would I see driving one?

That's the pleasant part of the story. The trouble seems to be with FINDING one in a decent price range OR importing one from the get go. So I ask my fellow JDM-RHD-owners, what channels did you go through in order to get your GTi-Rs legalized in the states? Or even HERE in the first place. I know there is a place in Canada that can import any car that is at least 15 years old, which my R33 would fall right into. Any thoughts, input, or ideas would be great.
2011-05-17 12:55:08
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anyone?
2011-05-17 13:05:07
#3
You're barking up the wrong tree. Better wait until they are 25 years old. One of the last "legal" R33s was seized by the US government not more than 3 months ago. He's having one hell of a time fighting that battle. Honorable, but masochistic.
2011-05-17 13:10:27
#4
I don't think this is the right forum for this question. I am pretty sure there is more info on this on nicoclub.

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2011-05-17 13:36:14
#5
Good luck...............

R32 and R34 are deemed illegal by all means...........R33 are "supposed" legal. The R33 chassis was crash tested and the papers were submitted for this chassis, but subsequently Motorex said R32-R34 were identical (the crash test results were used across all three chassis generations) and the all which had to be swapped were the doors from a domestic market 240sx to be deemed legal (which they were both not doing and was actually incorrect).

Last I checked, the last skyline which was seized was a R34.

Hey Ben do you have an article of the R33 which was being seized by the Feds?? I am pretty sure it was a R34...........

P.S. even if you import a car into CANADA, how are you going to get it through customs (and that rule applies to not only JDM cars (God I hate that whole JDM theme ), but the US equivalent as well)??
Last edited by Boostlee on 2011-05-17 at 13-41-18.
2011-05-17 14:00:26
#6
This is what I was talking about. I think it was an R33?

US Government Turns Up Heat on Skyline Owners
2011-05-17 14:15:19
#7
That is a R33, but it was "illegal" as far as the government is concerned. No Bond release was issued, so as far as the government is concerned, the car should technically still be sitting at the port/at customs until the bond release it issued.

Now, let me highlight the important parts of that article (I read it a few months back)

So what makes importing such a headache and prevents other Skyline models from being imported? One would think since Motorex imported R32’s, R33’s and R34’s years ago that they’d be legal as well, that is where things get sticky. When Motorex originally petitioned to the NHTSA to obtain approval to import Skylines they jumped through all the hoops the government required except one, crash testing. Most people did not learn of what Motorex did until the following of their shut down by the government and one would have to ask the question, WHY? Where Motorex screwed the pooch was the crash testing of Skylines to obtain a stamp of approval from the NHTSA on it’s safety compliance package to meet FMVSS. The law requires non-conforming vehicles not approved for import to be crash tested and have the subsequent data approved by the NHTSA before the vehicles can be cleared for import, sounds easy right? Motorex did in fact hire a company to conduct crash testing, however, they only crash tested one car, a R33, and the submitted data was then approved. All good and well? Not so much. The approval that Motorex pushed through the NHTSA was that R32’s, 33’s and 34’s were to be imported and the crash testing data from the R33 was used for all 3 models under a “substantially similar” clause that was later challenged in 2006 when the VCP-17 approval of Skyline imports for R32’s, 33’s and 34’s was reconsidered by the NHTSA. It was decided that the 3 models were far too different and the fact that there was no crash test data to support the R32’s and R34’s sealed their fate and got them removed from the non-conforming approval list at the NHTSA. The approval for import was later redesignated VCP-32 and only covered 1996-1998 R33’s both GTS and GTR varients. In a nutshell, only specific Skylines can be imported as of 2006 and there’s still a constant uphill battle over OBDII that still has yet to see the end of the tunnel.


Now, here is the issue as to why his supposed legal by law, is actually "illegal".

A interesting topic that is commonly discussed amongst Skyline owners is what happens to the cars that slipped into the country by unknown measures, both carrying U.S. titles and not. Taken from a recent affidavit: “If a vehicle is not on the list, it cannot be lawfully imported into the United States, even if efforts can be made after importation to bring it into compliance with FMVSS because that vehicle would not have been legally imported into the U.S. and would have violated Customs and Border Protection (CBP), US/DOT and EPA regulations in its importation into the U.S.”. Unfortunately, that means that if a Skyline does not carry a “Bond Release” from the NHTSA and applicable EPA forms then it’s not legal.
2011-05-17 14:20:55
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Move to canada.
2011-05-17 14:22:26
#9
I was under the impression that his specific Skyline had been issued the bond release. I guess that is not the case. Seems he doesn't have much ground to stand on. =(
2011-05-17 14:36:23
#10
Wait until they are 25 years old?
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