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2011-12-12 12:52:25
#11
You should have bought the head flange from Mazworx it's cheap and no modification necisary to fit a ve head and the machine it to accept the weld l's
2011-12-12 14:23:56
#12
Originally Posted by nissan
Hey we have maybe 20 mild and at least 2 SS flanges on the shelf @ work , I dont remember if they are all DET or VE ...I will look if you like , never mind my cost( I have dist. pricing at JGS ) is about the same as Mazworks wants for theirs , anywhays this lookslike a fun project , I am jigging up a GTI-R manifold as we speak to see if I can build a stock location manifold with a eternal WG .

And as for parts , you can get Merge collectors and all kinds of bends from a few good places ...

Vibrant Performance ::.
Global Technology and Engineering
Tube Bending & Fabrication - Columbia River Mandrel Bending


I'm interested in the SS flange if they are thick enough!

As for merge collectors, I've found some for under $100. The thing is, I don't know if I will have clearance for one. Thus I'm going to try to make one first.

Originally Posted by BlueRB240
Vadim email protech I think they have a few VE flanges in stock. They are thicker than the one your using right now and look 100% better.


I have a Protech log for a DE, the flange is same thickness might be even a little thinner.

Bruce from Protech has been great though, he gave me a lot of good advice on how to setup the MIG for welding this manifold up.

Originally Posted by ashtonsser
Good work soo far. All I can say is good luck man especially with a mig welder. I gave it a shot with doing mine and said screw it, I couldnt even get it to tack right with that material so I could have it tig welded by someone else. It was frustrating and a waste of time and money for me.

Granted the mig i was using wasnt very good but still. I thought i would be able to at least tack it up. Nope.


I'm giving it a shot first, if it fails then I'll just tac and send it off to a tig. I did a test but weld though, it's fairly strong!

Originally Posted by THE_FUGITIVE
you will feel the power now!!


No kidding! I'm trying to not get my hopes up, but I'm expecting it to be quick, then VTAK KICKED YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Originally Posted by Sealti96
The Mazworx head flange is the best for the price you pay, saves alot of time and can be used on VE and Non VE head without modification.

Can't wait to see the end result!!!


I was going to order theirs, but I didn't like having to sign up for an extra website etc. etc. This one was $40 shipped, but by the amount of work I had to put into it I wish I went with the Mazworx one. If only they were selling it on eBay (along with other things they do sell).
2011-12-12 14:31:35
#13
Mazworx sells them on ebay also.
2011-12-12 14:38:16
#14
Originally Posted by Sealti96
Mazworx sells them on ebay also.


Not at the moment they don't.... clicky

I sent them a PM asking if they can sell outside of the site (aka good old forum sale fashion.)
2011-12-12 15:16:57
#15
Originally Posted by Vadim
Not at the moment they don't.... clicky

I sent them a PM asking if they can sell outside of the site (aka good old forum sale fashion.)


Oh I was unaware that it wasnt on ebay anymore.. Enough about the flange, lets get this thing started.
2011-12-12 15:39:08
#16
Originally Posted by nissan
Hey we have maybe 20 mild and at least 2 SS flanges on the shelf @ work , I dont remember if they are all DET or VE ...I will look if you like , never mind my cost( I have dist. pricing at JGS ) is about the same as Mazworks wants for theirs , anywhays this lookslike a fun project , I am jigging up a GTI-R manifold as we speak to see if I can build a stock location manifold with a eternal WG .

And as for parts , you can get Merge collectors and all kinds of bends from a few good places ...

Vibrant Performance ::.
Global Technology and Engineering
Tube Bending & Fabrication - Columbia River Mandrel Bending


i want one, and don't ask Vadim to do it for me. I don't like his welds
2011-12-12 17:49:39
#17
Originally Posted by Sealti96
Oh I was unaware that it wasnt on ebay anymore.. Enough about the flange, lets get this thing started.


We'll see if they get back to me. I might just buy the proper one so that it doesn't kill the flow! But that also means I can't start building it until the new flange arrives .

Originally Posted by Keo
i want one, and don't ask Vadim to do it for me. I don't like his welds


You know I'm a newb still. I should ask you to weld mine!
2011-12-14 02:07:45
#18
Welded up a guide rod, that would work as a jig too. Started adjusting the manifold flange to see what angle would work best.


Taced it in place



Started checking the fitment and bending the guide rod until fitment was right.




I'm trying to get it fairly close to the block/VC so that I don't have any radiator clearance issues.


Realized that the bottom mount was getting in the way of the pipe routing. Welded one to the top and removed the lower one.



Removed the ugly looking welds and evened out the flange.
Before:


After:



Finally after trying to fit the individual runners, this seems like the best way to connect all of the runners to the merge pipe. Trying to keep the firing order circular (1-3-4-2).
2011-12-14 02:17:23
#19
One thing, that angle on the flange while similar to a log manifold is going to be very tough to bet the collector and runners welded up nicely. Why not just reclocke the turbine housing to where the flange can move outward a bit away from the head. Should still give you plenty of clearance to the radiator and so on and should make doing the runners much easier and also installing and removing the manifold much easier. Gonna be a lot going on to get all those runners into that location.
2011-12-14 02:18:04
#20
Nice, your going to want to reposition the flange and lay it flatter,there's will be real tight trying to get a collector done. Just a observation
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