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Thread: what are the best wheels for stage rally and rallycross

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2011-09-07 17:13:05
#1
what are the best wheels for stage rally and rallycross
im going turn my ser into a rally car. i bought some enkei rally wheels but they are 16" im guessing that is way to big.
2011-09-07 17:23:12
#2
I just squeezed some 14" bmw bottle caps on mine. Just cleared the nx brakes.
2011-09-07 17:24:21
#3
What chassis? B13? B15?

Assuming B13:

Rally tires are primarily available in 15" and to a lesser degree 14" (it is possible to get 13" and 16" but you pretty much have to ship them from Europe yourself and be willing to pay a ton).

For a B13, you won't be able to run 15" rally tires (they are only available with large sidewall ratios) without significant suspension changes, and they're heavy and will really hurt your final drive ratio.

You're pretty much going to be running 14" wheels.

What is your goal with the car? So much of what you should do depends on the end goal.
2011-09-07 18:00:29
#4
yeah sorry i have a b13 and my goal is a group 2 rally car and i wanna make it a full on stage rally car
2011-09-07 18:26:02
#5
Ok, one more question then. What part of the country are you in? In the east, especially the southeast, most rallys are put on by NASA, and you'd want to build to their rules. Most of the rest of the country is Rally-America. Rules between the two organizations are similar, but not identical.

Wheels should be the last thing you worry about, honestly. You'll want something 14", alloy, and decently strong, but cheap. Stock SE-R and NX2000 wheels are perfect.

Below is a list I pulled from the forums at Specialstage North American Rally Resource that do a pretty good job of listing what you need to have to compete in a stage rally. The items in bold are not requirements, but are considered to be fairly necessary by most competitors.

current license for your sanctioning body of choice
cage
Seats (x2)
Harness (x2)-FIA Standard 8853/98 and/or be SFI 16.1 or SFI 16.5
padding-SFI 45.1 or FIA Standard 8857-2001 Type A
computer and associated probes
8 tires
8 Wheels
intercom
codriver light

functioning high flow catalytic converter
mud flaps on all wheels
skid plate/sump gaurd
fuel tank guard if using stock tank or tank under car, bulkhead if using cell in car.
underbody protection
struts/springs/coilovers

triangles (x3)
fire extinguishers (x3) 10 B:C UL rating each (2 in car, one at service)
spill kit
medical kit
battery cutoff switch
fuel test port
tow eye (front and rear)
tow rope
jack
jackstands
in car jack

lug wrench
roof vents
hood pins
lights and light bar/pod
Driving Suit-FIA 8856-2000,FIA 1986 or SFI 3-2A/5. SFI 3-2A/1 drivingsuits are also permitted if worn with approved fire resistant underwear
Helmet-
1. Snell SA2005 or newer
2. British Standards: BS 6658-85 type A/FR, including all amendments
3. SFI Foundation, Inc.: SFI Foundation, Inc.: SFI Spec 31.1 Rev. A or
31.2 Rev. A
4. FIA 8860-2004
H&N Restraint-SFI 38.1 licensed, or FIA 8858-2002
Water bottle holders/camelback
Trunk Key with lanyard
cordless impact gun

-spare tire(s) retainer system (stock location may not work after cage install or with full-size rally tires)
-jack and lug wrench mount (stock location may not work after cage install)
-tool kit / supplies container and mount

-sunroof filler panel (if you have one)
-seam weld
- Disable steering column key interlock (remove/drill out the pin)
- Disable clutch starter interlock (remove/short the clutch switch)
Know the rules, including the supps.
Wash the car
in car helmet baskets/nets/box
Lifehammer x2


If I haven't scared you away yet... Before you start building a cage, or having one built, make sure that the rules for building the cage are understood, and ideally the plans have been run by a scrutineer from your sanctioning body of choice. A lot of people have gone off, built a cage and then found out that it has to be completely cut out and replaced to meet requirements. Rally cages are quite a bit different than most other cages in the US (though they are generally based on FIA 253 specs, and so correspond with the cages in use in most international competition).
2011-09-07 18:28:51
#6
Also, look up rallyser on here. He's selling a set of Hotbits rally coilovers for a b13. Really rally suspension is about the #1 thing you can do to make your car faster in rally.
2011-09-07 18:38:36
#7
i live in north east New Hampshire to be exact. i had decided on hotbits for suspension and was doing research on a cage. some of the things on that list i have never even heard of. you haven't scared me away yet i knew from the start building a rally car was nut going to be an easy task.
2011-09-07 18:44:56
#8
You're in NH? Hell, get your ass down to Team O'Neil Rally School & Car Control Center in Dalton! Even a 1-day "Rally Experience" will let you talk with the instructors and get a good idea of what you need to do learning and car-wise to be effective.

I did the 4-day course (before they offered a 5-day) and it was the best "upgrade" I've ever done.

Anything that doesn't make sense on that last, feel free to ask. Also, go over to that site and browse some of the stickies in the car construction area.
2011-09-07 18:48:13
#9
yeah i was planning on it just gotta save up the money. i know they also build cars for people but i have a feeling i would be paying out the ass for them to do it
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